Virginia Anti-Gun Activist Unveils 2021 Gun Control Agenda

[5030]

I agree with you MossRoad. As long as it isn't used as a means to establish a gun registry.

Which is exactly what the end game is....Registry = database = ultimate confiscation. Slippery slope.

 

[5030]

I live in an area that has nightly shootings. It would be impossible.

Mossy... Isn't that were the ex mayor Pete sits on his porch in the evening and enjoys his peace and quiet?

 

[kenmac]

If you take an oath to uphold the U.S. constitution and start passing laws to restrict gun ownership. you should be hung in the streets by your gonads !

''The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed'' !

There are many idiots that just don't understand the meaning of ''shall not be infringed''

The second amendment is the only amendment with that wording...
Let that sink in !

 

[s219]

Actually, the whole amendment reads:

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Good luck getting the true intention out of that, it's just not written clearly enough. The legal system generally goes with the "collective rights" interpretation that focuses on "the people" (= states) and not individuals. It should have been written more clearly either way.

There's another weird aspect, where "keep and bear" doesn't imply anything about "procure". Which means restrictions on gun manufacturers, gun retailers, gun dealers, private sales, etc... can and have been enacted. Do they infringe on the 2nd amendment? Not technically. In practice, they infringe on our ability to live by the 2nd amendment though.

I am pro 2nd amendment, but cripes, it was just not written well or thoroughly. No wonder it's a constant debate. Blame the founding fathers.

 

[rswyan]

If you take an oath to uphold the U.S. constitution and start passing laws to restrict gun ownership. you should be hung in the streets by your gonads ! ...

Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia - may he rest in eternal peace - clearly saw it differently ...

 

[kenmac]

Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia - may he rest in eternal peace - clearly saw it differently ...

Just because you are placed in a position, doesn't mean you are, or have to be smart

 

[kenmac]

Actually, the whole amendment reads:

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Good luck getting the true intention out of that, it's just not written clearly enough. The legal system generally goes with the "collective rights" interpretation that focuses on "the people" (= states) and not individuals. It should have been written more clearly either way.

There's another weird aspect, where "keep and bear" doesn't imply anything about "procure". Which means restrictions on gun manufacturers, gun retailers, gun dealers, private sales, etc... can and have been enacted. Do they infringe on the 2nd amendment? Not technically. In practice, they infringe on our ability to live by the 2nd amendment though.

I am pro 2nd amendment, but cripes, it was just not written well or thoroughly. No wonder it's a constant debate. Blame the founding fathers.

so, if they had used the said the right to procure. it would have been said, it doesn't mean the right to keep and bear
You can nit and pick anything to be what you want it to be.

Again, the second amendment is the only amendment with the wording ''shall not be infringed'' so it was important to them.

Lawyers can (and will) twist and turn every word they don't agree with these days, to make it stand for what they need /want it to stand for

To change the subject.. Abortion comes to mind. No where in the constitution does it state someone has a right to an abortion, Yet lawyers seem to think it does. If a woman has a right to an abortion, I have a right to bear arms, and intend to die if need be, to defend that right

 

[rswyan]

Just because you are placed in a position, doesn't mean you are, or have to be smart

That’s true - and just because one is placed in a position doesn’t mean they aren’t either.

 

[rswyan]

‘Multiple rounds from an AK-47 rifle’: Police arrest suspect for attack on Cuban Embassy in DC – Raw Story

 

[riptides]

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I am not aware of US government being able to tax a foreign companys products. They can put a tarriff on them

LOL. Explain how a tarrfif is not a tax to the ultimate consumer of the product.