Has anyone seen any deals due to this pandemic?

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   / Has anyone seen any deals due to this pandemic? #51  
   / Has anyone seen any deals due to this pandemic? #52  
Why? 13k off msrp is a good thing.

I dont think any of us are saying that. I think we are saying is $62,000 is way too much money for an F-150 :laughing:
 
   / Has anyone seen any deals due to this pandemic? #53  
So??? What's your point? A lot more is relative.

No, a lot more is a lot more :laughing::laughing:

A RAM with a true medium duty Diesel engine and an Aisin transmission and a 13.5” rear axle is a LOT more drivetrain than an F150 1/2 ton gasser with an automatic and a 9” rear axle.
Shall I go into the frames, brakes, wheels, tires, :laughing:

I have nothing against Ford. In fact I have 2 Ford diesel trucks and a GM gasser.
 
   / Has anyone seen any deals due to this pandemic? #54  
I think we are talking about 2 different things.
Its a seller market because of supply and demand. Econ 101 bro. You sound like youre talking about the ability of the seller difficulties to conduct business because of labor issues because of the BUG.
Once the manufacturers quit making tractors & trucks......might be noteworthy to mention , we ARE talking trucks & tractors, right? Were not talking like club crackers or diet root beer, correct??
Anyways, once the manufacturers quit making trucks and tractors, which has been the case for about 2 months now, the SUPPLY will run out. The DEMAND is not as great as it was, but there IS still a lot of demand. Gubmit is giving out free toad skins to bidnitzes all over the 57 states and they are SPENDING that money on new wheels! So the DEMAND is there, but the dealers know the SUPPLY is running out!!
That theres what cha call a SELLERS market!

I am not so sure of all that!
 
   / Has anyone seen any deals due to this pandemic? #55  
I bought a new tractor today. Place was really busy. I don稚 know whether it was a good deal, but I do know that they could have sold it to someone else easily if I had walked. I needed a tractor so I bought one.
 
   / Has anyone seen any deals due to this pandemic? #56  
There is always a lag in prices after a major financial change in the market.

Black Friday hit in 1929, but it was not until the 1932 that things really started to get bad.

No one knows what is happening right now, and most people are fiscally okay, so it is going to take awhile. I have seen this with dairy farming though. When it was bad, creditors were lenient with farmers, but it was when the prices for milk rose, that the creditors all started clamoring for their money. The farmers wee suddenly making money again, but now every creditor demanded their money, and it was too much for the industry, so dairy farmers went under at a record rate.

I predict the same thing will happen with the economy. Right now, everyone is being patient, but after 6 months, and after these companies that were marginal before, just might say, "we are not going back to business", and that is when the real unemployment numbers will hit.

But with tractors...right now...it is different. Everyone is home and doing work around the house and thinking, "I could use a tractor to get more work done", so tractor sales are up. And they will be up for awhile.

Myself, I am not into new and shiny, as that is an expensive addiction. Instead, I spent my government check on new tractor tires, and getting my old paid off tractor into like new condition again. It is a lot cheaper to rebuild them, then it is to make payments on them.
 
   / Has anyone seen any deals due to this pandemic? #57  
My check went to 2 universities my kids go to, or right back to the government as some might say :laughing:
 
   / Has anyone seen any deals due to this pandemic? #59  
I would find it very interesting if it were possible to track every new vehicle including cars, trucks and even tractors that are presently sitting on dealer lots to-day, and actually see when they finally sell. I,m guessing most people do not have purchasing a new vehicle, or tractor, on any kind of must do list. The lots within a 20 mile radius of my house are plugged full, and I,m guessing it will take years before all that inventory gets sold and replaced with 2023 models. I,m betting by that time, new models will be available to finally replace the old stock. I,ve talked to several dealer priciples, and the honest ones will tell you they are running with a skeloton staff, and are hurting bigtime. They are very worried about their business future, and if they will even still be around in a year or two. I drove by a vehicle auction holding yard a couple of weeks ago, and it is plugged full as well, waiting for the go-ahead to open up and start auctioning off all of its vehicles as well. It used to have a sale once a week, I wouldn,t be surprised to see it start selling every second or third day, to try and clear up the stockpile of vehicles.



I think we are talking about 2 different things.
Its a seller market because of supply and demand. Econ 101 bro. You sound like youre talking about the ability of the seller difficulties to conduct business because of labor issues because of the BUG.
Once the manufacturers quit making tractors & trucks......might be noteworthy to mention , we ARE talking trucks & tractors, right? Were not talking like club crackers or diet root beer, correct??
Anyways, once the manufacturers quit making trucks and tractors, which has been the case for about 2 months now, the SUPPLY will run out. The DEMAND is not as great as it was, but there IS still a lot of demand. Gubmit is giving out free toad skins to bidnitzes all over the 57 states and they are SPENDING that money on new wheels! So the DEMAND is there, but the dealers know the SUPPLY is running out!!
That theres what cha call a SELLERS market!
 
   / Has anyone seen any deals due to this pandemic? #60  
There is always a lag in prices after a major financial change in the market.

Black Friday hit in 1929, but it was not until the 1932 that things really started to get bad.

No one knows what is happening right now, and most people are fiscally okay, so it is going to take awhile. I have seen this with dairy farming though. When it was bad, creditors were lenient with farmers, but it was when the prices for milk rose, that the creditors all started clamoring for their money. The farmers wee suddenly making money again, but now every creditor demanded their money, and it was too much for the industry, so dairy farmers went under at a record rate.

I predict the same thing will happen with the economy. Right now, everyone is being patient, but after 6 months, and after these companies that were marginal before, just might say, "we are not going back to business", and that is when the real unemployment numbers will hit.

But with tractors...right now...it is different. Everyone is home and doing work around the house and thinking, "I could use a tractor to get more work done", so tractor sales are up. And they will be up for awhile.

Myself, I am not into new and shiny, as that is an expensive addiction. Instead, I spent my government check on new tractor tires, and getting my old paid off tractor into like new condition again. It is a lot cheaper to rebuild them, then it is to make payments on them.

You are a young guy, but,..... you have the situation OH SO FIGURED OUT!
There WILL be some big losers in the auto and tractor business, as well as other businesses, when this all shakes out.
20% unemployment at the end of this month?
How can that possibly bode well for future car and tractor sales?
 
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