Need help identifying the year/model of this NH tractor and getting it to start.

johnny1234 · May 13, 2020

I'm trying to fix a tractor, left behind by my father in law that passed away recently, so my MIL can go back to using it to tend to their property. I was told that it stopped starting with the key one day so FIL was bump starting it with the solenoid I think, and eventually the starter went out and he possibly replaced it but determined the replacement was the wrong type. I found a fairly clean looking starter in it, not tightened down and not wired up, and I took that to Autozone and they confirmed it's good. However, I have no idea if it's the right starter because I have no idea what year or model this tractor is. MIL has been trying to find all the paperwork and title but no luck yet. She desperately needs this tractor and its brush hog up and running soon.

After looking it over all I've been able to conclude is that it has a starter half-installed(only one bolt tightened, not wired up) and when I took that starter to Autozone it tested fine. I have no idea if it's the right starter because I have no idea what model this tractor is. Once I figure all that out and can get a starter for it, or if this starter is correct and works, I then need to figure out why it won't start with the key which I assume is probably caused by an open or bad killswitch somewhere.

Pics...

Any ideas on year/model, and any tips on sorting out the no-start issue?

Roadworthy · May 13, 2020

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It's blue and had a New Holland 7308 loader so I'll hazard a wild guess and say the tractor may be a New Holland. The New Holland dealer may be able to tell you what models the 7308 loader was used on. The side of the transmission (sometimes right, sometimes left) usually has a data plate. This may give model number as well as serial number. Copy the numbers and take them to the New Holland dealer, too. With that information you'll know much more than you know now.

windy acers · May 13, 2020

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It looks like a Japanese tractor sabana ? possibly.

johnny1234 · May 13, 2020

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Roadworthy said:
It's blue and had a New Holland 7308 loader so I'll hazard a wild guess and say the tractor may be a New Holland.

Which is why I posted it in the New Holland section. The "NEW HOLLAND" along the arm of the 7308 loader is good sign, too.

Roadworthy said:
The New Holland dealer may be able to tell you what models the 7308 loader was used on. The side of the transmission (sometimes right, sometimes left) usually has a data plate. This may give model number as well as serial number. Copy the numbers and take them to the New Holland dealer, too. With that information you'll know much more than you know now.

I'll check for that plate on the transmission.

The canopy has a plate with a list of 7 compatible tractor models, but google searching those models didn't help much since they all sort of look like the same tractor to me.

airbiscuit · May 13, 2020

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It is likely a New Holland 1725, 1925, TC29, TC33

Check the serial number plate.

johnny1234 · May 13, 2020

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airbiscuit said:
It is likely a New Holland 1725, 1925, TC29, TC33

Check the serial number plate.

Thanks for the video. All the stickers and such are worn out from sitting out in the weather so all those controls on each side of the driver are unknown to me, so that vid will definitely help me out.

Is the serial plate that data plate on the transmission the other poster mentioned above? I did a quick once over of the tractor and couldn't find any plates other than the ones for the canopy and the loader.

airbiscuit · May 13, 2020

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check on transmission , just behind bell housing on drivers side (below your left foot)

airbiscuit · May 13, 2020

There are lots of threads on TBN about flawed ignition switches on these model New Hollands.

johnny1234 · May 17, 2020

Was finally able to get a look at the tag on the transmission. It's a TC29D. Not sure what year it is, though. No date on that tag.

RickB · May 17, 2020

johnny1234 said:
Was finally able to get a look at the tag on the transmission. It's a TC29D. Not sure what year it is, though. No date on that tag.

Post the unit number if it has one and the serial/tractor number. That probably starts with G.

airbiscuit · May 17, 2020

From TractorData

New Holland TC29
1999 - 2003 Boomer TC Series
Compact Utility tractor
Next model: New Holland TC29DA

Series next: New Holland TC33

Series back: New Holland TC25

Production:
Manufacturer: New Holland
Original price (USD): $16,500 (2000)

Variants:
TC29: base model
TC29D: deluxe

New Holland TC29 Engine:

Shibura 1.3L 3-cyl diesel
full engine details ...

Capacity:
Fuel: 7.3 gal [27.6 L]

3-Point Hitch:

Rear Type: 1
Rear lift (at 24"/610mm): 1635 lbs [741 kg]

Power Take-off (PTO):

Rear PTO: transmission
live*
Rear RPM: 540
Mid PTO: optional
Mid RPM: 2000

Dimensions & Tires:

Wheelbase: 63 inches [160 cm]
SuperSteer Wheelbase: 72 inches [182 cm]
Weight: 2474 to 2588 pounds
Front tire: 5.50-16
Rear tire: 11.2-24

New Holland TC29 attachments:

mowing deck
snowblower
blade
front-end loader

New Holland TC29 Power:
Engine (gross): 29 hp [21.6 kW]
Engine (net): 27.4 hp [20.4 kW]
PTO (claimed): 25 hp [18.6 kW] (gear)
23.6 hp [17.6 kW] (hydro)

Mechanical:
Chassis: 4x2 2WD
4x4 MFWD 4WD
Steering: hydrostatic power
Brakes: wet disc
Cab: Two-post ROPS.

Hydraulics:
Type: open center
Pressure: 2133 psi [147.1 bar]
TC29 Pump flow: 6.1 gpm [23.1 lpm]
TC29D Pump flow: 7.1 gpm [26.9 lpm]
TC29 Total flow: 9.6 gpm [36.3 lpm]
TC29D Total flow: 12.2 gpm [46.2 lpm]
TC29 Steering flow: 3.5 gpm [13.2 lpm]
TC29D Steering flow: 5.1 gpm [19.3 lpm]

Electrical:
Ground: negative

Battery:
Number: 1
Volts: 12

johnny1234 · May 17, 2020

Tractor Number: G040849
Unit: 3A08D

I probably won't be able to work on it until next weekend so the plan is to get the battery pulled today and put on the tender so it's charged up when I'm ready to get started. I'll reinstall the starter I found on it since Autozone tested it and said it was good, and go from there on troubleshooting. I've browsed a handful of tc29d no-start threads and it looks like it could be the kill switch under the left fender, the ignition switch, the relay for the ignition switch, or a wiring issue in the starting circuit somewhere.

Is it possible to get new decals for the controls? These are all worn out so I have no idea what any of the levers, buttons, and switches do without referring to an operator's manual.

RickB · May 17, 2020

Final assembly Jan 8, 2003.
Decals should still be available from a New Holland dealer.

airbiscuit · May 17, 2020

airbiscuit · May 17, 2020

Aftermarket starters aren't too expensive

Amazon.com: NEW STARTER MOTOR COMPATIBLE WITH NEW HOLLAND TRACTOR TC29 TC29D TC29DA SBA18586551 132 SBA1858-6551 SBA18586551: Automotive

johnny1234 · May 17, 2020

That starter looks like the one I pulled off the tractor that autozone tested and said was fine, so I ran out there earlier to reinstall it and bring the battery back to the house to sit on the tender until next weekend when I have time to start testing things.

airbiscuit · May 17, 2020

There are several safety switches that may have corroded connections which may prevent it from starting. That model also had ignition switches that failed.

There are lots of threads on TBN about TC29 and TC33 starting issues.

That is a good tractor and it needs to be running.

johnny1234 · May 17, 2020

I found a video that shows where a few of the kill switches are behind the left rear wheel, and those are apparently the most common culprit of a no start issue if the ignition switch isn't bad. Now that I know what to look for I'm hoping I can sort out what the issue is pretty quickly next weekend and figure out what I need to order. New Holland Tractor Won't Start - YouTube

I'm having a bit of trouble finding a set of control lever stickers for it. Honestly may just use a paint marker and go by online photos or grab an operator's manual off ebay to make sure I'm labeling everything correctly.

Once it's running again I'll see about doing a full fluid change on it. No idea when it was last done.

airbiscuit · May 17, 2020

Here is a link to decals.

New Holland (TC29) - 3 CYL COMPACT TRACTOR (9/98-12/2) Parts Diagrams

johnny1234 · May 17, 2020

airbiscuit said:
Here is a link to decals.

New Holland (TC33D) - 3 CYL COMPACT TRACTOR DELUXE (9/99-12/2) Parts Diagrams

That link took me to a page with a bunch of random parts and accessories for a TC33D, but no decals. I'll browse around on there to see what I can find.