YM155D Rear axle seal HELP!

[garcol]

I have a YM155D that has had a rear axle seal for quite a while. I don't use the tractor much and if i park it with that side up it wouldn't leak too bad. But with the virus thing and needing the tractor to get things done i figured it was time to fix that problem with a few other things.
It is a little more involved than most axle seals as the whole axle housing has to come of transmission and the axle removed from the inside out so to speak.
I ordered up the parts from Hoye and the parts got here quickly. I had the rear assy torn apart and proceeded to install the seal. It is a special seal that incorporates a shim into it. I installed it using a flat block of wood and got it installed flush with housing and everything back together. I spun the axle a few times as i installed the housing back together and the following day spun it a few more times as i putting the rest of the tractor together. I kept checking for leaks. Then after about an hour the second day it started leaking again. Only this time worse. I called Hoye on Monday and verified maybe i had installed the seal wrong by using a flat block and i should have used a socket or pipe the correct diameter to install it. So I ordered another seal.
I just got done yesterday installing the new seal and within a couple hours it too is now leaking. This last time i was meticulous about installing it. I had the perfect size socket that only touched the outer edges of the seal as i tapped it into place. I made sure the axle shaft was perpendicular the the seal and assy as it too was installed. Am i missing something here?
I am reluctant to order another seal in fear that i would only have the same problem again. I am wondering if maybe i should try to get just a standard type shaft seal but questioning how to find out correct sizing to buy?
Any help would be appreciated. I am stumped.
I have included some pictures to better show my problem.
Picture 1 is of my tractor put back together but leaking.
Picture 2 is of my tractor torn a part.
Picture 3 is of the manual and #14 is the sleeve that is incorporated into the new style oil seal #15.

 

[garcol]

P.S. I also cleaned and buffed the axle shaft with some scotchbrite to be sure it was clean and smooth before installing

 

[winston1]

looking at your second picture it would seem your axle shaft has a pretty good groove worn in it. If so, not likely to seal. I am not familiar with the new seal that is to take the place of the original sleeve. Wondering if a speedi sleeve could be used with it or maybe a different seal to fit the speedi sleeve like this one? SKF

 

[garcol]

looking at your second picture it would seem your axle shaft has a pretty good groove worn in it. If so, not likely to seal. I am not familiar with the new seal that is to take the place of the original sleeve. Wondering if a speedi sleeve could be used with it or maybe a different seal to fit the speedi sleeve like this one? SKF

Thanks Winston. The Axle shaft really does not have a groove worked into it. And the newer style seals have kind of a speedi seal built into them. I have it all torn a part now, again. So i am taking measurements to see if i can find a regular style seal to work for me?

 

[winston1]

Wow, when I click to enlarge the picture there is a gold colored area that is really misleading.

 

[garcol]

Yes the picture is awful and the shaft is filthy in that picture. Here is another picture of the shaft cleaned up a bit. To the right of the pointer is the bearing surface and to the left of the pointer is the seal surface.

 

[winston1]

Yes the picture is awful and the shaft is filthy in that picture. Here is another picture of the shaft cleaned up a bit. To the right of the pointer is the bearing surface and to the left of the pointer is the seal surface.
View attachment 657157

Yes, looks good. I was fooled by first picture.

 

[Jtullis13]

I was on board with Winston initially on the axle surface. It does look better in that picture. I would take a measurement of your axle and your new seal and see how they compare. Options would be to get a seal that matches or find a wear sleeve to go over the axle. If you put the new seal in and it still leaks then you have your answer on if you axle has a wear spot.

 

[garcol]

I took the axle shaft in and had it checked for being bent. It is not bent and runs out true and round. It was a question that had been asked by the guy where i bought the latest seal from. I was just assuming that the axle was straight. Now i know for sure that it is.
I plan to get it all back together again this weekend.
Thank you for all your thoughts and ideas. I will keep you updated.

 

[garcol]

Got it done today using a seal designed for the shaft and housing diameter. For future reference and others who may need to know i used a N**A seal #17677 SKF seal. I think it was listed to be used on a transfer case output shaft of something? I hope it holds up and lasts for a while. Thanks to all for the support and advice.