reb
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Saw the Bollinger website yesterday. Almost sold me, but for two problems--estimated 200 mile range and $125k price tag. One would have to carry a generator to recharge it in my area.
Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.
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I always wondered about a different type of hybrid. A pure electric car with a clean/high efficiency/constant speed diesel powered generator to extend range.
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Replace the diesel generator with a smaller hydrogen or similar fuel cell to keep the charge up and recharge when not in use...no need for other (outside) recharging/fueling systems etc...
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Why would Europe buy Chinese cars? We can build them ourselves.
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Thats brilliant! Why do we not run everything off AA alkaline cells! Very high energy density. Just replace the batteries rather than the inconvenience of charging!
The answer is that even with Tesla's existing long life 10+ year batteries the cost of wear and tear on the battery is a significant percentage of the cost of the power used to charge.
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Still doesn't come close to the efficiency and low cost of fixed plant power generation.
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Hydrogen is very inefficient to create. Simply compressing it to a volume small enough to carry a useful quantity uses a lot of power. And if you think ethanol is corrosive and troublesome, hydrogen makes ethanol look like an amateur.
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Volvo is one China brand popular in Europe already. China owns the lion share of EV battery industry and EV passenger bus and EV trucks shipped worldwide. Tesla in China is going to cobalt free iron based EV battery. When it comes to EV's and Space Race China has the most USA trained engineers. China is leading the EV self driving effort and their advances in 5G technology is lowering the cost of self driving technology. Europe and perhaps the USA will forget about the 2020 Pandemic and continue to sell key food and manufacturing companies to China since they now have the money and technology from the rest of the world. Claiming the Dark side of the moon showed their technology advances over the rest of the world.
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Beating the dead horse that is arguing about the issues of hydrogen is inane...the key is improving the technology involved in producing it and dealing with the volatility...
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Yep, plug it in at night. Then start on a 500 mile trip, with the small diesel generator adding charge along the way. It would never be used on trips within the range of the batteries. It's function is to extend the range on long trips.
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