NRA suit for fraud

[deserteagle71]

I myself don't agree with a lot of what the NRA does. The fact remains - if it were not for the NRA we all would have lost the right to own firearms years ago. In so many of the past elections I can remember all the talking heads saying what a big difference the NRA made - that there were so many "NRA" voters that politicians were afraid of them.

 

[Hroller]

I myself don't agree with a lot of what the NRA does. The fact remains - if it were not for the NRA we all would have lost the right to own firearms years ago. In so many of the past elections I can remember all the talking heads saying what a big difference the NRA made - that there were so many "NRA" voters that politicians were afraid of them.

Uh, the NRA supported the NFA, FOPA, GCA, Bumpstock ban, red flag laws... the NFA stuff was in the 1930s IIRC, the NRA hasn't stopped the erosion of our 2A Rights for nearly the last Century.

 

[Diggin It]

Like the AARP, it's become a lobbying group. But this one openly engages in bribery, extortion, intimidation, and other illegal activities. This Wayne guy should have been in prison years ago.

 

[jmc]

Like the AARP, it's become a lobbying group. But this one openly engages in bribery, extortion, intimidation, and other illegal activities. This Wayne guy should have been in prison years ago.

OP here. That first post was the lede two paragraphs cut and pasted from a paywalled site. The article went on to say that what Wayne-guy was calling reimbursement of business expenses were, in fact, NRA payments for luxurious family vacations via chartered jets, limos, yachts, etc and with no NRA business purpose. Accordingly, those "business expenses" shoulda been declared as income instead, but weren't. So there IS a tax evasion issue.

 

[oldballs]

Seems to me that most large organizations have corruption. Name one that doesn't! The average guy on an expense account fills it with padded expenses and is chastised by his confreres if he doesn't. If Wayne is guilty, let the chips fall. What was Oliver North's beef with the NRA anyhow?

Cheers,
Mike

 

[RickB]

Seems to me that most large organizations have corruption. Name one that doesn't! The average guy on an expense account fills it with padded expenses and is chastised by his confreres if he doesn't. If Wayne is guilty, let the chips fall. What was Oliver North's beef with the NRA anyhow?

Cheers,
Mike

A disagreement with the CEO at the center of this mess.

 

[Cat_Driver]

I stopped giving money to all middlemen 40 years ago.

I give, but I look the person in the eyes when I give, that's the only way I give. Too many shenanigans going on when the middle man gets his mitts on my money. You know like the Catholic church to pay off all the pedophile priests.

I'll walk into a homeless shelter and drop off a trunkload of food, I'll use to walk up to a guy asking for money and hand it to him no more, mostly they beg for food and only want the cash for drugs, cigarettes etc. A guy was holding up a sign "WANT MONEY FOR FOOD". I was near an In N Out burger joint so I bought him the works. I drove around the block expecting to see him enjoying the burger and he tossed the whole bag of food on the ground and then proceeded to hold up the sign for more money.

From that day on I never will give a dime to these beggars. What I do is carry a case of water in my truck. Out here they beg in the heat 120 plus so I'll hand then some water and a chewy bar, but never cash.

I remember one Thanksgiving when my heart was failing ) before I had heart valve surgery) and it was all I could do to walk to the restroom in the house. The local homeless shelter was crying that they didn't have enough food for their thanksgiving dinner.

I gathered the wife hobbled over to Costco and bought a dozen turkeys and cases fo veggies etc. When we arrived I was useless to carry this stuff in from the truck so I asked my wife to get some volunteers to help.

NOT ONE Son of a gun offered to help my wife. They stood around drinking coffee and smoking while she made several agonizing trips in and out with their food. You can bet your life that was the last time I ever did that again.

Now I'll engage in a conversation with a waitress, maid, bus person, Gardner etc. If in the conversation something triggers my spirit, like a single mom waiting tables to support her kids with two jobs, then I'll drop $100.00 as a tip on a hamburger. If a person is an extremely helpful kind, hard worker helping with something at a store, I'll drop a "tip" on him or her.

Workers NO OWNERS that come to my house for any work knowing they're getting paid lousy money but doing amazing work - they get tipped.


You've all seen this I'm sure

 

[Jstpssng]

I'm a member solely because they're the only game in town. I don't like their fear mongering or the incessant phone calls, emails, and junk mail asking for more money. Yet this is obviously yet another attempt to shut them down. What politicians don't understand is that "The NRA" doesn't vote; it's the people making up the organization who do.

 

[RickB]

True. But if you choose to adopt the anti 2A stance, disabling a large and powerful lobby group is a big accomplishment.
I prefer to look at this case on its merits which appear on the surface to be significant.

 

[Storm56]

No doubt the intent of this lawsuit is political.

Also no doubt that Wayne and his buddies have been raiding the till for years.

I am an endowment member but I do believe the organization has lost it's way in recent years.

As a gun owner I believe we need a powerful lobby in Washington. But Wayne and his buddies need to be shown the door.