Driving habits of rural folk

[ovrszd]

HaHa I went to the gun range and rode my Harley today and still alive, Now If I can make it thru dinner with the wife I will be doing good,LOL..............

Rebel......

 

[3 Horse Ranch]

ANYONE with common sense knows that if you need to pee that bad, you pull over on the side of the road (safely of course) and do a right front tire safety check kneeling down or yet another reason to have a large empy Gatorade bottle laying around in the car:thumbsup:

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I sort of figured that was the reason for the invention of the crew cab pickup. Sort of a stall on wheels when you open both passenger doors.

 

[Peter 315]

I sort of figured that was the reason for the invention of the crew cab pickup. Sort of a stall on wheels when you open both passenger doors.

Works for the wife...

 

[3930dave]

The comments about Jeeps and primitive vehicles got me thinking. My first car 40+ years ago was a 1954 Willys soft top jeep (which I still have.) I would say the only standard factory safety features it has is the single left tail light and the horn. Mirrors, rear bumperettes, turn signals, and even the passenger seat were options. Brake design and effectiveness was likely an afterthought. A top speed of maybe 55 mph probably saved my young & dumb life a few times. A good many farming options were also available:

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Times do change...... chuckled thinking about a Lexus SUV with a twin-disc plow attached

Rgds, D.

 

[MossRoad]

ANYONE with common sense knows that if you need to pee that bad, you pull over on the side of the road (safely of course) and do a right front tire safety check kneeling down or yet another reason to have a large empy Gatorade bottle laying around in the car:thumbsup:

As far as pooping, my one (pre teen at the time) use to drive me up the wall with that. Leave the house driving and 5 minitues later he tells me he has to take a #2 Think we finally got through to him about planning to use the bathroom BEFORE we leave as I don't remember him having that problem for some time now (particularly since he wants his driving hours in). As for adults having that issue on a short drive, no clue what the solution is.

Wife and I drove up to northern Michigan last week. About 3-4 hours into it, and 3-4 hours after drinking a large glass of milk and a 20 oz pop along the way, I realized that all McDonalds restrooms are closed, as they are drive-through only. So are all of the other fast food places. We found a Walmart. Whew! :laughing:

 

[MossRoad]

I'm sure you know a lot more about criminals and illegal drug addicts than I do, so I'm curious what you think about my theory below:

Since illegal drugs are illegal, any illegal drug addicts are criminals by definition. I would suspect that anyone willing to habitually break the law long enough to develop a serious illegal drug addiction, is more likely than the average person to commit a felony even if there were no drugs involved. I don't deny that the drugs play a part, but I suspect that the felonies have more to do with the character of the individual than they do with the drugs. In other words, they aren't felons because they're illegal drug addicts; they're illegal drug addicts and felons because they're poor quality specimens of our species.

According to the first Google result in my search, Heroin is the most addictive substance in society today, followed by alcohol at #2 and tobacco at #5. How often do people rob stores to buy booze and smokes? And if that was their excuse would you attribute the crime to the addictive nature of booze and smokes or would you attribute it to the poor moral character of the criminal who committed the act?

I suspect the vast majority of beer and cigarette addicts go their whole lives without ever stealing to feed their habit. They are substance addicts and that doesn't cause them to commit crimes. Their addictions are legal.

Did you think that up on one of your road raging drives into town the other day? :laughing:

 

[fried1765]

HaHa I went to the gun range and rode my Harley today and still alive, Now If I can make it thru dinner with the wife I will be doing good,LOL..............

You may have misinterpreted my feelings about bikes.
I would not permit my TEENAGERS to own, or ride bikes.
I actually owned, and rode a bike for three years in a suburb of Tokyo.
Left side driving too!

 

[lman]

I'm sure you know a lot more about criminals and illegal drug addicts than I do, so I'm curious what you think about my theory below:

Since illegal drugs are illegal, any illegal drug addicts are criminals by definition. I would suspect that anyone willing to habitually break the law long enough to develop a serious illegal drug addiction, is more likely than the average person to commit a felony even if there were no drugs involved. I don't deny that the drugs play a part, but I suspect that the felonies have more to do with the character of the individual than they do with the drugs. In other words, they aren't felons because they're illegal drug addicts; they're illegal drug addicts and felons because they're poor quality specimens of our species.

According to the first Google result in my search, Heroin is the most addictive substance in society today, followed by alcohol at #2 and tobacco at #5. How often do people rob stores to buy booze and smokes? And if that was their excuse would you attribute the crime to the addictive nature of booze and smokes or would you attribute it to the poor moral character of the criminal who committed the act?

I suspect the vast majority of beer and cigarette addicts go their whole lives without ever stealing to feed their habit. They are substance addicts and that doesn't cause them to commit crimes. Their addictions are legal.

I just got back from a motorcycle ride. Lots of farmers out harvesting corn and beans.
I've seen plenty of broken homes due to alcohol use and deaths caused by intoxicated drivers. Alcohol use is illegal when someone is driving. Of course cigarettes are slow suicide and second hand smoke is harmful to other people. I see little benefit of these addictive items. Can you advise of any constructive uses of the items you have mentioned? I never judged whether someone had low moral character. I analyzed the facts surrounding the cases I investigated. I recall another case in which a man killed his girlfriends 18 month old son because he wet the bed. Meth use by the killer was a large factor in this case. So as I say go ahead and let us know why these items should be any easier to access than they are now.

 

[Peter 315]

You may have misinterpreted my feelings about bikes.
I would not permit my TEENAGERS to own, or ride bikes.
I actually owned, and rode a bike for three years in a suburb of Tokyo.
Left side driving too!

My farther was the same way also...We had dirt bikes as kids but no street bikes...Not that we did not ride on the road with the dirt bikes..

 

[strantor]

I just got back from a motorcycle ride. Lots of farmers out harvesting corn and beans.
I've seen plenty of broken homes due to alcohol use and deaths caused by intoxicated drivers. Alcohol use is illegal when someone is driving. Of course cigarettes are slow suicide and second hand smoke is harmful to other people. I see little benefit of these addictive items. Can you advise of any constructive uses of the items you have mentioned?

I agree, little or no benefit to, and i can't provide any constructive uses for alcohol, cigarettes, meth, or motorcycles. That is my opinion only and I don't presume it to be so important as to be imposed on others.

I never judged whether someone had low moral character. I analyzed the facts surrounding the cases I investigated.

Your use of the word "judged" seems deliberate. Do you mean "I'm not a judge and my opinion doesn't count." Or do you mean to imply that you never had any opinion one way or the other? The former seems like a deflection and the latter seems unbelievable.

I recall another case in which a man killed his girlfriends 18 month old son because he wet the bed. Meth use by the killer was a large factor in this case.

That sounds to me like an evil man. I can't imagine having the job of investigating that kind of depravity. I'm sorry you had to experience that and thank you for doing it.

So as I say go ahead and let us know why these items should be any easier to access than they are now.

Because that is the price of freedom. How can we call this a free country when arbitrary personal opinion is forced on others as law? What are we actually free to do anymore?



I'm sure you wouldn't want my personal opinion forced on you, as you wouldn't be allowed to ride your bike anymore. How is the moratorium on Marijuana any different? It admittedly gets more tricky when we talk about meth and heroin, but I think consistency is the right answer. Personal freedom and personal responsibility. I'm not an expert though, and I'm thankful that it isn't my call. It's much easier to have inconsequential opinions without ever having the opportunity or burden of seeing the results of them being implemented as policy.