Grandpa, tell me bout the good ole days............

[MossRoad]

Speaking of asphalt, what ever happened to plans to use old glass in in paving? From what I've read it's not cost effective to recycle (largely due to the weight & cost of transportation), but this sounded promising.



Strange the EPA encourages this, apparently tires generate lots of pollutants, way more than coal, oil or other fuels alone. I'm sure there are scrubbers for the smoke, and I also suppose it's the lesser evil than just burying them.

The EPA says the air pollution released from burning tires for fuel is equivalent to fossil fuel. Tires gave of something like 20% more energy than coal. So you'd end up burning more coal to equal the energy produced by tires, which means burning tires for energy produces less pollution than coal for an equal amount of power out.

 

[Fuddy1952]

Years ago I had a friend (rip) who was a Mister Haney (Green Acres) clone...anything to make a dollar. He and his uncle would go around to tire stores and haul off their old tires, uncle had an old cattle truck.
They'd drive way down in the country, pull over and put out a hand painted "tires $5" sign. They actually made quite a bit of money doing that.
Knowing him he probably made money from the tire store also "we'll haul off your pile of tires for $50".

 

[Industrial Toys]

I always though buring tires with scrubbers seemed like a plan. Dealing with the leftover cords and stuff would be another matter.

 

[user.69169]

May shock you, but I don't believe government, especially government agency. Maybe you never seen a Levie Board. You had you wouldn't believe government weather man widout looking out window first. Like Ronnie Ray Gun said, trust BUT verify.

I kind of figure somebody burnin tires like dat cement plant be proud of it in 2020, spent lot of time gettin to do it, lot of money too. Industry always based on profit too, and part of profit is payin to get coal train to come by or gettin truckloads free heat in tires delivered to door. Nother part is called Good Will, got big dollar value, so dey proud of solving scrap tire problem while makin cement. Even got video on utube4boobs. Spent some time lookin, and I didn't find anybody else jumpin up even admitting dey burn tires. Conclusion= EPA full of unprocessed human crap! Jemmison plant still shut down, no tires burnin there. Kutreb still out of business. Scrap tires still filling washes and gullys, till dey catch fire and smoke up few thousand acres. I ain't from Missery, been there a number of times though, so SHOW me besides Cemex who is burning tires for energy.

 

[user.69169]

I always though buring tires with scrubbers seemed like a plan. Dealing with the leftover cords and stuff would be another matter.

Look at Cemex burner, dey tell you all de answers. Burn hot enough pretty much everything consumed. Afterburner finishes burn of any departing smoke. Smoke is energy not captured and converted to heat. Steel in ash becomes part of cement product and reduces cost of Cement because dey don't have to buy iron component.

 

[Industrial Toys]

Never had a clue, iron was part of cement.

I don't understand why they didn't burn tires. Even if it costs more, you are getting rid of garbage wth little good places to go. You always have to follow the money.

 

[Jstpssng]

Never had a clue, iron was part of cement.

I don't understand why they didn't burn tires. Even if it costs more, you are getting rid of garbage wth little good places to go. You always have to follow the money.

Rebar or some type of steel is used to keep it together. Another option used is fiberglass strands.

 

[user.69169]

Never had a clue, iron was part of cement.

I don't understand why they didn't burn tires. Even if it costs more, you are getting rid of garbage wth little good places to go. You always have to follow the money.

Want to see de real money look into Pollution Credits. Carbon Credit invented by AlGore in his filthy airplane some heavy money. Back in 90s watched local power company shutting down powerhouses. Told public how plant was obsolete & convinced PSC to allow closure. Same time every bit of equipment is listed for sale as state of art and available at good price by a broker. Carbon Credits worth more Dollars in pocket than continuing to make electric. Nice quiet pocket money for right people at top of company, ZIP for people who paid to build plant.

Same company spent 11 million ratepayer bucks to rebuild Hydro plant intake system in 90s gets bought by Spanish holding company buys de company and first thing dey do is shut down all powerhouses but 1. 1 little powerhouse on river keeps dem in different tax category. Suckered State to get taxpayer to fund 16" high pressure gas line to a coal plant. Gas line few miles from power house, dey announce instead of converting rom coal to gas power house getting shut down & scrapped. Gee, guess who also in gas selling business and now hassecond source of gas to buy from? Gas cheaper to company thanks to taxpayer & politicians, but not cheaper to joe homeowner who buys gas to keep house warm.

Meanwhile Bill Sixpak buying whole house generator for next power failure dat shouldn't happen and connecting to gas line. Hey Joe, how long you figure gas keep comin to your house when electric is off? Dat gas you counting on pumped to you by electricity in 2020. Jobs was eliminated by going electric rather den old Snow engines did de job for 75 years. Now kid wid computer in Albany cellar runs de whole State. You buying Genecrap or Kohler?

 

[MossRoad]

Back in 60s couple big farm girls used to cover NY wid a 24 foot straight rack truck pickin up scrap tires. Sold em around Naples and other grape areas for smudge fires to keep grapes from freezing. Dey made good living, tires got fine viking funeral and grapes got to be wine like God intended.

Junk tires- back in 70s company called Kutreb figured out how to burn dem as fuel. Black hole in internet show nothin, but you find in Rock & Dirt and truckin magazines of era. Tires chewed into little chunks, fed into chain grate boiler and burned in combination wid coal in power plants. Second setup fer truck terminals, 40k gal buried cistern wid burner dat swallow few 1000-20 tires a day. Cistern stored hot water to heat terminal. No smoke because combustion air blown in over fire and consumed unburned fuel dat would have been smoke. Also made burner setups for asphalt plants and cement kilns.

NY Electric & Gas built Jemmison Plant to burn combo fuel and solve State's used tire problem. Set up as chain grate fire, fuel size of marbles from shredder & crusher. Passed all testing, no smoke showing, no stink.

Along comes EPA, brand new bunch of thugs wid Diplomas and no brains. Back den NY air not as clean as is today for true, but not like California either. EPA boys put STOP to any burning of tires, anyplace, any way. Never looked at what dey regulate, just regulated. Jemmison retrofitted to burn only coal, what could have been free power went up smokestack. Didn't need sanity or facts, dey had Degrees in STUPID and lifetime Government jobs wid pensions. Men who figured out how to burn went on unemployment.

Steel wire and belts in tires we got now prevent tire chunks from being used in paving, same as glass in concrete, cuts up tires.

Salmon probably croaking from getting near California.

Well, a little investigation reveals first, you have the plant name incorrect. It's Jennison, not Jemmison.

It was built in the 40's. It was not built to burn combo fuel. They started burning tires in 1993.

In 1999 the plant was sold to AES as part of a 6 plant deal for hundreds of millions of dollars.

In 2000, citing the age and cost of the plant, AES closed it and put it on cold standby.

Since then, much of the equipment has been removed and it is no loner a permitted power plant.

Nowhere, anywhere, is there any reference to the EPA shutting it down.

Jennison plant generated electrical power from 1945 to 2 | Columns | thedailystar.com

 

[user.69169]

Well, a little investigation reveals first, you have the plant name incorrect. It's Jennison, not Jemmison.

It was built in the 40's. It was not built to burn combo fuel. They started burning tires in 1993.

In 1999 the plant was sold to AES as part of a 6 plant deal for hundreds of millions of dollars.

In 2000, citing the age and cost of the plant, AES closed it and put it on cold standby.

Since then, much of the equipment has been removed and it is no loner a permitted power plant.

Nowhere, anywhere, is there any reference to the EPA shutting it down.

Jennison plant generated electrical power from 1945 to 2 | Columns | thedailystar.com

How many times you haul equipment into dat plant Mr Google?