Amazon to offer broadband Internet from space

   / Amazon to offer broadband Internet from space #31  
My DSL is 1.2 mbit down max, normally about 512k, and 28k upload. With no cell service in my area, I don't have much choice. I even put up a cell phone signal amplifier, but it didn't help.

I feel your pain. Our rural internet service lands somewhere between dismal and abysmal. Sign me up Amazon...
 
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I've had HughesNet out here for eleven years now. Since we seldom have a storm - there is seldom an outage. I'm not a gamer so it's fast enough for me.

No idea what I would do with a faster service..........

Cheaper service - I pay $50 per month - cheaper would be nice.

Probably not gonna find it cheaper than that...we have cable internet, and it's ~$50/mo for 25 down/5 up. More than enough for what we need.
I had satellite (Wildblue) before Time-Warner came down my road ~10 years ago, and it wasn't very great. It went out every time it stormed, and the latency was too high to use any sort of remote-access software (I use Teamviewer for my business). I can't imagine it working for streaming. It cost more per month than cable does, and I was lucky to get 250k speeds.
Don't miss it one bit.
 
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   / Amazon to offer broadband Internet from space
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Interesting. 28 Ghz uplink and 17Ghz downlink. I wonder how that will perform in stormy weather? It will be interesting to see how this shakes out and how well the hand-offs will work with the LEO birds.

Starlink uses ku-band and Kuiper will use ka-band. ka-band is faster than ku-band but is more susceptible to stormy weather.
 
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Starlink uses ku-band and Kuiper will use ka-band. ka-band is faster than ku-band but is more susceptible to stormy weather.

Well, I reckon if they are going to spend millions on launching that many birds, they have probably done the engineering work. The article didn't say how much gain that flat phased array antenna had, but at those frequencies, I suspect it is a lot. Surely they have figured in the link budget and how much fade margin they will have in various weather conditions. I hope. :) I did find it a bit odd, they tested it on a geosynchronous satellite, yet there entire system is set up to work with LEO birds. I find that a bit curious. But hey, no one consulted me. :)
 
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Oh, and for the benefit of those that are maybe a little fuzzy on satelite jargon: LEO in this case DOES NOT mean Law Enforcement Officer, it means Low Earth Orbit. These are the satellite's that orbit the earth just a couple hundred miles up and move very fast because they are so close to the earth. And even when at the zenith (straight up from the observers prospective) they may not take more than 15 minutes from horizon to horizon, sometimes less depending on orbital height. Low angle passes will be even less time from AOS (Acquisition Of Signal) to LOS (Loss Of Signal) *

* Strange fun fact: An LEO satellite can come from the south and disappear in the north one day and then can come from the north and disappear in the south the next day. Think about that a bit and if you would like to discuss it here, I would be happy to give it a good try at explaining it. :) it is fun to learn things.
 
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I know where the geoSat is. I gotta find the LEOs. Let's just simply the test. IMHO.
Well, I reckon if they are going to spend millions on launching that many birds, they have probably done the engineering work. The article didn't say how much gain that flat phased array antenna had, but at those frequencies, I suspect it is a lot. Surely they have figured in the link budget and how much fade margin they will have in various weather conditions. I hope. :) I did find it a bit odd, they tested it on a geosynchronous satellite, yet there entire system is set up to work with LEO birds. I find that a bit curious. But hey, no one consulted me. :)
 
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Well, I reckon if they are going to spend millions on launching that many birds, they have probably done the engineering work. The article didn't say how much gain that flat phased array antenna had, but at those frequencies, I suspect it is a lot. Surely they have figured in the link budget and how much fade margin they will have in various weather conditions. I hope. :) I did find it a bit odd, they tested it on a geosynchronous satellite, yet there entire system is set up to work with LEO birds. I find that a bit curious. But hey, no one consulted me. :)

Amazon doesn't have any LEO birds yet so GEO bird was only choice. Hmmmm wonder if Prime customers will get a subscription discount and/or free shipping? :D
 
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Amazon doesn't have any LEO birds yet so GEO bird was only choice. Hmmmm wonder if Prime customers will get a subscription discount and/or free shipping? :D

Maybe a discount would be possible...
 

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