Strange night last night...

   / Strange night last night... #61  
We have had a couple of occassions for unknown parties to show up at our door after dark. No way am I leaving the house to investigate at that point. Safest place is in the house. As already pointed out if you are **IN** your home and have to shoot an intruder you are in a much better legal position than if you shot an intruder outside your home. I am not aware of any state that would require you to retreat from inside your own home to avoid an armed confrontation. Many states have "stand your ground" laws that would potentially protect you outside your home, but i would rather not test the limits of Indiana's version of that law.

Now if you cross the threashold please expect to take 2x9mm hollow points as close to center mass as I can get them while I am trying not to crap in my pants.
 
   / Strange night last night... #62  
Come to think of it - I've shot many an intruder. Those @#$% pocket gophers & chipmunks. I have a chunk of pine tree out in the yard. It's exactly 62 feet from the railing on my front porch. Many a 'monk has met his doom sitting up there chirping at me. OCCASIONALLY a pocket gopher will "surface" and I can get set up on the little beastie. View attachment 681607
 
   / Strange night last night... #63  
We have had a couple of occassions for unknown parties to show up at our door after dark. No way am I leaving the house to investigate at that point. Safest place is in the house. As already pointed out if you are **IN** your home and have to shoot an intruder you are in a much better legal position than if you shot an intruder outside your home. I am not aware of any state that would require you to retreat from inside your own home to avoid an armed confrontation. Many states have "stand your ground" laws that would potentially protect you outside your home, but i would rather not test the limits of Indiana's version of that law.

Now if you cross the threashold please expect to take 2x9mm hollow points as close to center mass as I can get them while I am trying not to crap in my pants.

In Missouri, the castle doctrine extends to outside your home.
 
   / Strange night last night... #64  
"I'm trying to make sense of it. I would have thought the husband would be first out (why collect guns? He doesn't hunt)."
Guns don't buy you courage.

I remember years ago when my brother called me crying on the phone that someone was breaking into his house. He said he heard them walking on the roof.

I only lived a few blocks away from him and his wife, we were all in our 20's. As I drove over I spotted the vehicle of our friends so I pulled over by them and they were laughing so hard they could hardly speak.

It was them that was crawling around on his roof. Out one friend said that as he was climbing down he heard a loud noise running toward him and it scared the you know what out of him. That was my brother frantically running to the neighbors and pounding on their door.

I went to my brother's house and he and his wife were panicked. He said he was so scared he tried DIALING a push-button phone while hiding behind the Christmas tree.

Neither one of us at the time owned guns.....later that week we both owned guns. That was when you could walk in a buy a gun and walk out with it.

The moral of the story no one knows how they will react when you are truly terrified.
 
   / Strange night last night... #65  
Just seeing this thread now. Probably mentioned already, but it sounds like a camera system would be useful to determine if anything really happened that night.
 
   / Strange night last night... #66  
"I'm trying to make sense of it. I would have thought the husband would be first out (why collect guns? He doesn't hunt)."
Guns don't buy you courage.

I remember years ago when my brother called me crying on the phone that someone was breaking into his house. He said he heard them walking on the roof.

I only lived a few blocks away from him and his wife, we were all in our 20's. As I drove over I spotted the vehicle of our friends so I pulled over by them and they were laughing so hard they could hardly speak.

It was them that was crawling around on his roof. Out one friend said that as he was climbing down he heard a loud noise running toward him and it scared the you know what out of him. That was my brother frantically running to the neighbors and pounding on their door.

I went to my brother's house and he and his wife were panicked. He said he was so scared he tried DIALING a push-button phone while hiding behind the Christmas tree.

Neither one of us at the time owned guns.....later that week we both owned guns. That was when you could walk in a buy a gun and walk out with it.

The moral of the story no one knows how they will react when you are truly terrified.

I worked as a medic for 20 years. We responded to a call for person shot. Sheriff deputy met us at the ambulance and told us it was fatality. We went in to confirm, the brain matter every where made it an easy confirmation.

Two guys were crying and just carrying on. Asked the deputy what the story was? All three guys were co-workers. Two of them had been out drinking and knew that the other co-worker was home alone and decided that they would sneak into his house to prank him. Well, as you can imagine, drunks aren't the quietest people in the world and the homeowner heard them in the basement (he always left the outside basement door unlocked and the co-workers knew this). The homeowner thinking he was being burglarized grabbed his pistol and started down the hallway. The two drunk coworkers decided that one would get on the shoulders of the other and stick his head up through the laundry drop chute and scare the homeowner.

Well, it worked. He scared the homeowner (his fellow coworker), the owner was startled and thought he was being attacked/robbed, and fired a shot right through the guy's head. The homeowner was not charged.
 
   / Strange night last night... #67  
In Missouri, the castle doctrine extends to outside your home.

"In Missouri, the castle doctrine extends to the outside of your home"
Oh really ??

Apparently, Mark and Patricia McCloskey (St. Louis) also thought that to be true!
They are now spending LOTS of attorney dollars, to defend themselves.
 
   / Strange night last night... #68  
Apparently, Mark and Patricia McCloskey (St. Louis) also thought that to be true!
They are now spending LOTS of attorney dollars, to defend themselves.

That in itself is the crime. They did no wrong in my mind.
 
   / Strange night last night... #69  
That my friends is what we have to look forward to!
 
   / Strange night last night... #70  
In Missouri, the castle doctrine extends to outside your home.

in Indiana it extends to the "curtilage" around your house. How far away from the house is that? I don't know and don't want to find out. Must better to defend your self with "well when I shot him he was **IN** my house". No jury around here is going to convict you unless you emptied your mag into him and reloaded.
 

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