Looking at 2 way radios with my neighbors

   / Looking at 2 way radios with my neighbors #31  
Just to clarify: GMRS requires a license but no testing for $35 and covers the entire family for 10 years. GMRS is available in base - mobile - and hand held. FRS channels are included in most good GMRS radios and you won't need a license to just talk on those FRS channels. FRS is available in base - mobile - and hand held. CB is free and is not at all like it was back in the day when all the channels were loaded with static and people cussing and fighting. Unless you live in a good size city or next door to a truck stop, there are very few people on the channels. (I live in the country) Skip will roll on some days but it is limited to the more dedicated skip channels (6 & 38). CB is available in base - mobile - and hand held. All these radios can be run off of 12v battery as a back up or main power source. So if power is cut you still can communicate. Hope this helps. Using any hand held indoors will cut down on communication range.
 
   / Looking at 2 way radios with my neighbors #32  
Buy quality GMRS hand sets and you will get excellent service...have been using units purchased for less than $50 for over 8 years in the exact same scenario as described by the OP without any reception issues...why some are making it more complicated is beyond me...!

BTW...mostly used indoors with a avg range of 1.5- 2 miles with no external antenna etc...
 
   / Looking at 2 way radios with my neighbors #33  
To the OP, I hope whatever you invest in-- works as you hope it will. There is certainly a wide range of opinions here.
 
   / Looking at 2 way radios with my neighbors #34  
Just to clarify: GMRS requires a license but no testing for $35 and covers the entire family for 10 years. GMRS is available in base - mobile - and hand held. FRS channels are included in most good GMRS radios and you won't need a license to just talk on those FRS channels. FRS is available in base - mobile - and hand held. CB is free and is not at all like it was back in the day when all the channels were loaded with static and people cussing and fighting. Unless you live in a good size city or next door to a truck stop, there are very few people on the channels. (I live in the country) Skip will roll on some days but it is limited to the more dedicated skip channels (6 & 38). CB is available in base - mobile - and hand held. All these radios can be run off of 12v battery as a back up or main power source. So if power is cut you still can communicate. Hope this helps. Using any hand held indoors will cut down on communication range.

I like the idea of the handheld CB radios....
 
   / Looking at 2 way radios with my neighbors #35  
I like the idea of the handheld CB radios....

You are not going to like them in a couple of years when the solar flux rises above 100
 
   / Looking at 2 way radios with my neighbors #36  
I like the idea of the handheld CB radios....

Me too. For 1 to 2 mile range it would be easy and simple for all (young & old) to operate. Pick a channel and talk.
 
   / Looking at 2 way radios with my neighbors #37  
Me too. For 1 to 2 mile range it would be easy and simple to operate. Pick a channel and talk.

Is that the limit on the hand held?
Mobile (vehicle) is what 40?
Man I forgot my CB CDL trucking days. Everything is phones, phones, phones now
 
   / Looking at 2 way radios with my neighbors #38  
Let me give you all a little background history you may not be aware of.

When the FCC started the concept of CB which stands for Citizens Band, they wanted a cheap service that would serve the average citizen without the expense of the existing commercial radios and all the expense and hassle that entailed. This was in the late 50's. First they tried what was called Class A service. This was up in the 460 Mhz range. This was a great idea, however the technology of the day failed to produce radios in the price range that was envisioned that the average citizen could afford and the utility and performance that was required. All lot of the problems was frequency stability at these UHF frequencies at a low price point. So, this plan was scrapped for the most part, and a new band was decided upon.

This was the 11 meter or 27 Mhz band. This band was currently assigned to Amateur radio. This band was taken from the Amateurs in 1958 and designated the Class D Citizens Band. This was a mistake. A huge mistake. But the die was cast. Manufactures could produce cheap, effective and stable radio sets at this much lower frequency with ease. BUT no one seemed to think about fact that the 27 Mhz allocation is subject to F2 ionospheric propagation during peak sunspot cycle years.

It wasn't too many years later that some people began to utilize CB as a "hobby band" instead of as a service to serve persons and small business needs. So pretty soon a lot of folks started to work this "skip" and take advantage of the enhanced propagation to communicate over thousands of miles. The FCC never anticipated this. Also some movies of the time glamorized this type of activity. While this activity was strictly codified as being illegal in the rules, pertaining to height of antennas, and distances allowed to be worked on CB, these rules were ignored and hence the original purpose of CB was perverted. Soon the FCC lost total control of the "Children's Band" and even eventually dropped the entire callsign and licensing structure it started out with in 1958.

During peak sunspot years it became a lawless wasteland with people running huge antennas and huge amounts of of power with illegal power amplifiers becoming the norm. Of course during sunspot minimum years all would become quiet as the enhanced propagation dies down and just doesn't support much long distance communications.

Of course all of this could have been avoided if the FCC had some foresight and not chosen a frequency range that supported F2 layer ionospheric propagation. But they did what they did, and people did what they did, and the FCC lost total control of the whole situation.

I would not put any money into 27 Mhz equipment. There are lots of other good choices. MURS or GMRS equipment would be 2 choices that don't require testing of individuals or of course Amateur radio, but that does require a simple 35 question test for the entry level license that would allow access to the VHF/UHF frequencies available to these license holders.
 
   / Looking at 2 way radios with my neighbors #39  
   / Looking at 2 way radios with my neighbors
  • Thread Starter
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I appreciate the advice everyone.

I will mention this on our Facebook group (while we are all still there lol). I’m sure some will think it is over reacting but the time to prepare is before the need. If we wait until a problem is here, it is likely too late.
 

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