Hydraulic snowthrower chute re-do

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Jim Timber

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The original chute rotator was seized when I bought my New Idea 7' snowthrower. Normally, I'd just rework the bad bits, but in this case the mechanism had been designed by a disciple of Rube Goldberg and I wasn't about to waste any time "fixing" it. Fortunately, they did one thing "simply", and with 2 bolts and a cut cable clamp, the works were discarded.

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The original design used cable wrapped around a pulley on one end and the chute base on the other. I decided the more elegant solution would be a gear around the chute base, as most walk-behind units use, but I didn't want it worm driven (slow), and I didn't think I'd find any cheap traditional gears this size. So a chain sprocket became the obvious choice as they're cheap, readily available, and would hold up to the task indefinitely with little future maintenance.

Next step was to free the chute base from the chute. Thankfully, someone "farmer welded" the four points attaching the two components, and breaking them free was relatively painless.

Those welds... Ooof! :eek:

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With the base free, I cut off the cable clamp bracket and cleaned up the OD of the chute.

I knew from previous measurements that my gear needed a 12.625" ID hole to fit around the chute base. So I fitted a piece of 2" OD scrap to it's mounting hole, and clamped it in my Super Spacer on my mill.

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Turns out, I could've stood to have cut the hole a few thou larger, as it took a concerted effort getting the gear around the base, but I did it without heat and no blood loss. :laughing:

After considerable pounding, I managed to get the sprocket down where I wanted it, and then welded it up.

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Since I'll be rebuilding the chute when weather improves, I only bolted it back on the base.

I didn't take any picks of the hydraulic motor mounting bracket. It's just heavy angle iron with the appropriate bolt pattern and a 1.75 I.D. center hole to allow the motor to sit flush, then some 1x1 galvanized tubing added.

First mockup of hydraulic motor:

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Then it was just a matter of measuring where the chute sprocket was relative to the top of the auger housing, and marking & drilling the holes.

Bolted everything up and added the hoses - she's good to go!

 
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Thanks!

I still need to rig up some hose clamps, but I'm pretty happy with how it turned out.
 
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Do you happen to have a before photo? I'm very curious to see what the Rube Goldberg setup looked like. Your simple (no pun intended) setup is awesome! I'd like to pick up one of these at some point and would love to rebuild one like you!
 
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The first picture is the OEM contraption removed.

The cylinder push/pulled the lever, which swung a half-round "rack" gear, which in turn rotated a pinion gear, whose shaft turned a pulley, which wound/unwound a cable, which was supposed to be wrapped around the chute base where my driven sprocket now lives.

Whoever had it before me didn't have the cables rigged correctly, which might explain why the pivot and pinion bushings were locked up solid.

This is the only pic I have of it on the snowthrower.

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What baffles me, is that with all the welding and specialty parts, plus a reasonably large cylinder - it's cheaper to buy a hydraulic motor to begin with.

Granted, mine was dirt cheap as NOS off ebay, but Surplus Center carries motors for $150 new. So it isn't like they couldn't choose an off-the-shelf part to use and simplify the whole works.
 
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I pulled up some others that are for sale to show the original configuration.

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This is an ingenious method. I haven’t worked as a machinist in 24 years. Crap has it been that long???? Anyways, I miss having those machines at my disposal. When I find one for the right price, I’ll call you to machine a sprocket for me :)
 
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Thanks!

I'd be lost without my shop. :laughing: I don't even do napkin drawings for 3/4 the stuff I make.

Since we've got a storm coming, I moved the tractor and took some pics of the motor mounted up.

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Jim, how did you get the circle on your mill. I did something similar but used plasma to cut the sprocket.. Did not turn out as well. I may redo it.
Thanks, rob
 
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I tacked a piece of 2" scrap into the bore of the sprocket, then clamped that in my super spacer's chuck.

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