Good morning!!!!

   / Good morning!!!! #127,951  
Actually, it's the inverse ... at in the case of the junior Senator from Texas ... :laughing:

Is your obvious hatred of Texas .. and Texans .. a jealousy thing or what? ..... Not laughing.
 
   / Good morning!!!! #127,952  
need to go out for a walk it's so warm out, 47 degrees, high for the next ten days.
Everything is pretty mushy though.
Never thought I'd be saying wish I could send Texas some warmer weather.
 
   / Good morning!!!! #127,953  
Your lack of wind power is not the issue.

Read the link in the Texas winter thread.
Good morning. Our temperature bottomed out at 8° this morning and now already up to 14° and sunshine. It should get up to the low 30's this afternoon.

It only got to the mid 20's yesterday but .. with a full day of sunshine .. the surface of what was very fine powder .. melted and then refroze overnight creating a crust on the snow. With forecast temps I suspect the snow will be here at least a few more days. It's supposed to get to high 40's on Saturday and the 60's by Sunday.

Those .. choosing to criticize "Texas" Power Grid management would do well to educate themselves prior to "sounding off". The Texas Power Grid (yes .. we have our own) is managed by ERCOT .. not Texas State and / or local government. ERCOT is independent and in general manages our power well. Texas' decision to create our own power grid was and is intentional. For one thing .. it keeps the Federal Government from meddling with our power.

Our present weather / temperature is a once in a generation event .. last time was 7° in 1989 .. that event was just cold .. not icy as we're experiencing this week.

Do you build your "power system" for the absolute worse case ever? That would be costly and extremely in-efficient .. so no.

It's unfortunate .. that a bad combination of ice storms and long term, low temperatures took the majority of our wind power off line. But that demonstrates that .. had our state been "majority wind power" .. we'd all be freezing to death about now. Prior to yesterday most of Texas was very overcast for last 10 days or so limiting what power came from Solar farms. And a large % of them got iced as well .. further reducing output.

ERCOT elected to use short term rolling blackouts to get through this. Ours have all been 30-40 minutes in duration which is nearly un-noticeable.

My point is that a total conversion to wind / solar is unworkable. We would have significantly less reliable power .. at significantly higher cost. This week hammered that lesson home .. for me.

Hope everyone stay safe and warm.

Prayers to all.
 
   / Good morning!!!! #127,954  
Your lack of wind power is not the issue.

Read the link in the Texas winter thread.

I never said the loss of wind power was the sole issue?

BUT .. losing 25,000 MW of capacity during a "once in a generation" cold spell, with ice, snow, freezing rain .. isn't the best timing.

Losing 25,000 MW of capacity, regardless of the source, is no small issue.

You're free to go solely wind /solar but .. this week demonstrates .. you may not like the result.
 
   / Good morning!!!! #127,955  
15˚F at noon, our clear morning sky is starting to cloud up again. Have not had another blackout since we woke up. Mom keeps getting them but she says she is timing her cooking and staying warm.

We bundled up and took Whipper for a walk this morning when it was 11˚F. we stayed in the middle of the street where that one car had compacted the snow. The snow is still dry like the skiing snow I remember on the Colorado mountains. I noticed two of the twenty house we passed had tracks coming out of the garage, so people are venturing about. I never thought I would think 20˚F is a warming trend.

Drew you can keep the warm up there I have lived through too many Texas Augusts. A week of bitter cold is ok, but no more.

Bird we have been using the non-dilating eye exam for years and gladly pay the extra fee for not having to have our eyes dilated. I think the fee was between $30-$50.
 
   / Good morning!!!! #127,956  
Thanks, Bird. Never been offered that option so I guess not available at this Dr. I’d pay the extra fee.
 
   / Good morning!!!! #127,957  
Good morning. Our temperature bottomed out at 8ー this morning and now already up to 14ー and sunshine. It should get up to the low 30's this afternoon.

It only got to the mid 20's yesterday but .. with a full day of sunshine .. the surface of what was very fine powder .. melted and then refroze overnight creating a crust on the snow. With forecast temps I suspect the snow will be here at least a few more days. It's supposed to get to high 40's on Saturday and the 60's by Sunday.

That's certainly got to be welcome news.

Hopefully this will be the only event Texas has to endure this winter.

Those .. choosing to criticize "Texas" Power Grid management would do well to educate themselves prior to "sounding off".

But I didn't criticize Texas Power Grid management - in fact, I'm pretty sure I clearly stated that I didn't know what - if any - role Texas Power Grid management played in the situation.

However, having said that, it seems to me that at least exploring the question might be in the best interests of those who are supposed to be served by the entity that oversees it (that would be the consumers in my mind)

Apparently, there are some in Texas - including the Speaker of the Texas House - that think reviewing the matter of statewide power outages seems like a reasonable proposition. And he has called for hearings later this month.

To me, that just seems like common sense.

What went wrong with the Texas power grid?

The Texas Power Grid (yes .. we have our own) is managed by ERCOT .. not Texas State and / or local government. ERCOT is independent and in general manages our power well. Texas' decision to create our own power grid was and is intentional. For one thing .. it keeps the Federal Government from meddling with our power.

Seemingly a laudable goal ... at least in theory.

Texplainer: Why Does Texas Have Its Own Power Grid?

Our present weather / temperature is a once in a generation event .. last time was 7ー in 1989 .. that event was just cold .. not icy as we're experiencing this week.

Do you build your "power system" for the absolute worse case ever? That would be costly and extremely in-efficient .. so no.

I suspect that you may see that line of thinking re-examined a little more closely in the future, in terms of the balancing of interests (investment vs. capability) ... particularly if this type of event becomes more commonplace.

It's unfortunate .. that a bad combination of ice storms and long term, low temperatures took the majority of our wind power off line.

Unfortunate - particularly for those Texas communities that are hardest hit - but probably foreseeable.

If that's true, then where does the responsibility lie ?

But that demonstrates that .. had our state been "majority wind power" .. we'd all be freezing to death about now. Prior to yesterday most of Texas was very overcast for last 10 days or so limiting what power came from Solar farms. And a large % of them got iced as well .. further reducing output.

Well, I'm certainly not advocating that Texas (or anywhere else for that matter) be "majority wind power".

I do think, like Drew points out, that a balancing of sources/methods are needed ... and not just for Texas.

That's why I raised the issue of (cleaner ?) nuclear previously.

ERCOT elected to use short term rolling blackouts to get through this. Ours have all been 30-40 minutes in duration which is nearly un-noticeable.

My point is that a total conversion to wind / solar is unworkable. We would have significantly less reliable power .. at significantly higher cost. This week hammered that lesson home .. for me.

I wouldn't disagree (with the highlighted)

But I will say that while NG is a great resource from a number of angles, it is also my understanding that Texas does not produce enough to meet it's own needs. And that raises the issue of what happens when there is a widespread situation like this weather event, where other areas that Texas might draw from, are effected as well.

So NG certainly isn't the be-all, end-all.. in that it's a finite resource.

To me, NG seems like a stopgap, temporary solution at best ... until we can transition to more sustainable forms of power generation.
 
   / Good morning!!!! #127,958  
How about discussing the Texas power grid in another forum in another thread so we don't have to prune this one/close it?

Good morning. :)
 
   / Good morning!!!! #127,959  
Woke up to a loud noise on the roof like someone fell on it or something fell in the attic???? Will investigate when it gets light outside. No trees close.

Don did you ever find out what caused that noise? I was letting my imagination run wild and thought of blue ice falling from an airliner or a meteorite. The last time we has a thump in the night it was one of my wife's house plants falling off a window ledge.

Chris
 

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