Nearly went over.

[Rebeldad1]

Filled tires don't do much for lifting. You need weight on the 3 point.

Dont agree. My tires are filled and it made a huge difference. Very rarely do I need extra ballast. The plus = no extra stress on the rear axle bearings and the best is if I do need more its a warning that I am close to exceeding the limits of the tractor without breaking anything. Lots of posts of axle housings ( some over $3500.00 plus labor to replace) to trans/differential housings. After breaking my older tractor twice... I am cautious.

 

[4570Man]

Wow.....a very appropriate point.
Much of the grammar used on this site would not pass a 3rd grade English exam.

There’s a big difference in not having a degree in English vs being pretty much illiterate.

 

[Jstpssng]

There’s a big difference in not having a degree in English vs being pretty much illiterate.

There’s a big difference in not having a degree in English vs intentionally acting illiterate

You made a typing error yourself, but I fixed it for you.

 

[Industrial Toys]

It must be the age group/generations that are mostly attracted to this site. Mostly very well written posts. I don't have spell check on this newer PC. No interest in paying(sorry renting) it, or selling my soul to the Devil for a "FREE" version.

 

[Citydude]

I went on a fishing trip up to Canada many years ago and a young lady in Saskatoon asked me what country I was from. Apparently, Wyoming has an unusual accent.

 

[Jstpssng]

I went on a fishing trip up to Canada many years ago and a young lady in Saskatoon asked me what country I was from. Apparently, Wyoming has an unusual accent.

I wouldn't know it from reading your posts though.

 

[fried1765]

There’s a big difference in not having a degree in English vs being pretty much illiterate.

I would suspect that very few here on TBN have an English degree.

 

[lennyzx11]

Dont agree. My tires are filled and it made a huge difference. Very rarely do I need extra ballast. The plus = no extra stress on the rear axle bearings and the best is if I do need more its a warning that I am close to exceeding the limits of the tractor without breaking anything. Lots of posts of axle housings ( some over $3500.00 plus labor to replace) to trans/differential housings. After breaking my older tractor twice... I am cautious.

Sir, I could be wrong. And enlightened people can jump in here and correct me but I won’t get into a argument back and forth.
But I am going to attempt to make the point the other way one time. Respectfully.

The front axle is taking the weight when the FEL is loaded and the the weight starts shifting UP from the rear and DOWN on the front. That weight has to go somewhere. It may be balanced but it’s still weight on one central point. Every pound of it.

It, plus the weight of the FEL and load are now sitting on the front central pivot point of the front axle.
The front axle is carrying 1/2 of all that weight on each front wheel. When the tractor and load are level side to side relationally.

The front axle is smaller. Hence weaker.

The tractor or load leans to one side, wheel goes up on a rock or down in a hole the load is somewhat transferred to the downhill front wheel.

Yes. It(weighted tires/wheel weights) are better than no weight to get away with picking something up.
But it is causing a load on the front axle that could be avoided with a weight behind the rear axle that makes the stronger rear axle become the fixed center with two ground points(wheels) point(fulcrum) bearing of the total weight of the whole assembly(tractor,FEL,weight).
So they can better take and distribute the total weight relieving the smaller front axle.

 

[tallyho8]

All of us know someone who can't talk to us without a little ha ha after each sentence and all of us know someone that the world's best comic could not make crack a smile. It seems to me that those who constantly deride a fellow TBNer due to his posts that many of us here on the forum think are clever and comical are all members of that group that you can't make smile by hitting yourself in the face with a pie. These people want everything their way and anybody who does things that are not their way will be victims of their criticism. About 10 years ago one of them highly criticized me because I had an animated horse in my signature and he said it distracted him while he was trying to read. I simply ignored it.

About 15 years ago we had a poster who used a lot of different colored fonts in his posts and ended many lines with ....... instead of a single. So many people insulted him over these simple traits that he quit posting on TBN. I guess the opposition felt victorious that they won.

I have never blocked a person's posts nor do I ever need to because I am intelligent enough that when I come to a person's post that I do not want to read I simply skip it. (happens very, very rarely)

I, personally, and I bet a lot of you also, know some people who are much more depressed and antagonistic during these trying times of the Covid, and lockdowns, and can't do this and can't do that, and want to take out it out on other people but this is OUR forum and our fellow TBNers, so in the words of Jack Nicholson:

"can't we all just get along" jack nicolson - Bing video

 

[LouNY]

Sir, I could be wrong. And enlightened people can jump in here and correct me but I won’t get into a argument back and forth.
But I am going to attempt to make the point the other way one time. Respectfully.

The front axle is taking the weight when the FEL is loaded and the the weight starts shifting UP from the rear and DOWN on the front. That weight has to go somewhere. It may be balanced but it’s still weight on one central point. Every pound of it.

It, plus the weight of the FEL and load are now sitting on the front central pivot point of the front axle.
The front axle is carrying 1/2 of all that weight on each front wheel. When the tractor and load are level side to side relationally.

The front axle is smaller. Hence weaker.

The tractor or load leans to one side, wheel goes up on a rock or down in a hole the load is somewhat transferred to the downhill front wheel.

Yes. It(weighted tires/wheel weights) are better than no weight to get away with picking something up.
But it is causing a load on the front axle that could be avoided with a weight behind the rear axle that makes the stronger rear axle become the fixed center with two ground points(wheels) point(fulcrum) bearing of the total weight of the whole assembly(tractor,FEL,weight).
So they can better take and distribute the total weight relieving the smaller front axle.

Your argument sounds good but I am going to disagree.
To use your idea of the front axle being the fulcrum for the load is reasonable.
However when weight is added to the loader bucket the front axle is going to see the load.
The weight trying to counter balance the machine could be on the axle, in the tires or on the 3 point.
I don't see were it will decrease the loading increase on the front axle reguardless of were that weight is.
The weight in the bucket will increase the load on the front axle the only way to reduce that would be to have
so much weight on the 3 point that the front axle was unloaded that would make a tractor that was unusable without a load in the bucket.
If you can't secure your tractor for its load with axle or wheel ballast you must be trying to lift an enormous load.
I have picked up and moved "mafia" blocks with my Branson 8050 so a 3600# load with a 10,000# tractor with 1200# of wheel weights.
I have also moved and set them with my Dynahoe 190-4 which is over 20,000#, the surprising thing was that I couldn't carry them with the hoe
because I was lifting the front loader end of the tractor in the air.