Mowing in reverse with SCUT and MMM

[cperky]

While at the JD dealer yesterday I was told that the mid mount mower pto would stop if I go in reverse (1025R) . There is a button to override this. I was also told it was required to have this function by law and that all SCUT would stop the pto. It was stated as a safety feature.

Questions:
1 Does kubota mmm pto stop if you go in reverse (bx2680)?
2. Does this become a nuisance while mowing, do you have to push the button every time you back up then start forward?
3. after backing up ( to turn around etc) do you have to throttle down to re-engage pto before going forward?

 

[Diggin It]

Mine doesn't do that.

Both riding mowers do, but the Craftsman has a factory override.

 

[coldsteelva]

Not sure why that would be. The Massey GC series will power the mid-mount PTO in forward and reverse motion AND both the mid-mount and rear PTO are capable of being engaged at the same time. The PTO only rotates one way right?

 

[WranglerX]

Funny part of this my JD riding mower cuts better in reverse than forward........Previous owner actually by passed override so it is full time active.... 12 years now and not a issue... Don't see why it would be a problem with ANY mower if operator is knowledgeable of machine...

 

[i7win7]

BX2370, MMM only shuts down if butt leaves the seat.

 

[bigtiller]

While at the JD dealer yesterday I was told that the mid mount mower pto would stop if I go in reverse (1025R) . There is a button to override this. I was also told it was required to have this function by law and that all SCUT would stop the pto. It was stated as a safety feature.

Questions:
1 Does kubota mmm pto stop if you go in reverse (bx2680)?
2. Does this become a nuisance while mowing, do you have to push the button every time you back up then start forward?
3. after backing up ( to turn around etc) do you have to throttle down to re-engage pto before going forward?

Answers:
1. I don't know about your particular model, but in general, new lawnmowers are now required by law to shutdown in reverse.
2. Yes it is a nuisance but it soon becomes a habit.
3. If you forget to use the by-pass switch, you should idle down to reengage the pto. You don't have to, but it will prevent accumulated damage to the system.

 

[herm0016]

everything I have gotten used has had this kind of thing disabled.

 

[cperky]

While mowing does the button have to be pushed every time you hit the reverse pedal or can you activate the button once and it stays active until you get off the seat?

 

[bigtiller]

You have to push the button everytime, before you go into reverse.

 

[dodge man]

I have a JD 2025r, similar to a JD 1025r, and yes bigtiller is correct, you have to hit it every time. It Is the same button you use to turn the pto on, it’s a rocker switch. The mower keeps working but if you forget to hit the switch the tractor will eventually die. The Kubota BX I had did not require this but that 14 years ago, I don’t know about the new Kubota. There is a way to bypass this with some wiring.

I really like my JD2025r but hate this feature. I forget sometimes but usually remember before I kill the tractor. I’m not sure how having to look forward at the dash to hit a button makes it safer, you should be looking backwards. On the larger 2 series, like a 2032r you can disable the function by pressing the buttons on the LCD display, the smaller tractors don’t have these buttons.

 

[hube2]

While at the JD dealer yesterday I was told that the mid mount mower pto would stop if I go in reverse (1025R) . There is a button to override this. I was also told it was required to have this function by law and that all SCUT would stop the pto. It was stated as a safety feature.

Stupid feature. I had a JD lawn tractor before I got my current machine. On that one the engine would die if you tried to go in reverse without hitting the button. I never disabled it, kept wanting to and never did. I got used to it, so used to it I was mashing my thumb into the dash of my new tractor for the first 2 months I owned it every time I wanted to go in reverse.

I think that constantly turning off the mid pto and back on would be bad for mower. I'm supposed to throttle down to engage/disengage mine to reduce shock stress on the implement.

 

[Diggin It]

As I said above, the Craftsman has a manual override. Turn the ignition/key switch to a second position, then push a button. A red LED comes on and it stays in override until you shut the engine off. Similar to this one:

 

[hube2]

Yep,

As I said above, the Craftsman has a manual override. Turn the ignition/key switch to a second position, then push a button. A red LED comes on and it stays in override until you shut the engine off. Similar to this one:

That picture tells you exactly the type of stupid it's meant to prevent

 

[MoKelly]

Yep,

That picture tells you exactly the type of stupid it's meant to prevent

I guess stupid can backup a car and it’s all good but stupid can’t backup a mower.

MoKelly

 

[MHarryE]

Yup, became requirement when people kept cutting toes, feet, legs off their kids. Old people don’t matter. My Kubota GR2120 has a push button - press it to override the reverse cutout. It flashes red after pressing but only needs to be pressed once each time you start the blades and the reverse cutout stays inactive until the next time you start the blades - red light flashing as a warning. Much preferred to my JD which needed the button pressed every reverse.

 

[zzvyb6]

Too many stupid grandfathers with their grandchildren riding on fenders caused all of this. Makes a terrible mess.

 

[Avenger]

I was a fender rider on Grandpas tractor. Though he was always very concerned and careful with me, and explained safety very well.

Thats why I disable safety switched like these.

 

[jjp8182]

So this is begging the questions: at what point/size does this not become a required feature? Is it only sub-compacts? only those models frequently sold/marketed with a mid-mount mower? ...and is it only tied to having an implement/load on a mid-PTO? (would seem to become a real nuisance when using a 3pt snowblower)

Just curiosity on my part

 

[Rdrcr]

While at the JD dealer yesterday I was told that the mid mount mower pto would stop if I go in reverse (1025R) . There is a button to override this. I was also told it was required to have this function by law and that all SCUT would stop the pto. It was stated as a safety feature.

Questions:
1 Does kubota mmm pto stop if you go in reverse (bx2680)?
2. Does this become a nuisance while mowing, do you have to push the button every time you back up then start forward?
3. after backing up ( to turn around etc) do you have to throttle down to re-engage pto before going forward?

The Kubota will allow you to mow in reverse with the MMM. Due to my steep hills and terrain, I mow in reverse ALL-THE-TIME. I mow up, then down my hills in reverse. Yes, having to press a stupid button on the dash while mowing and looking backwards sucked on my previous JD. Nope, the PTO stays running the entire time unless your butt leaves the seat. Mowing with my Kubota is a much better experience than with the JD. IMHO.

Mike

 

[jjp8182]

I was a fender rider on Grandpas tractor. Though he was always very concerned and careful with me, and explained safety very well.

Thats why I disable safety switched like these.

While safety features can help with safety they're no substitute for teaching/communicating, thinking, and personal responsibility.