Automatic entry gates - DIY

[plowhog]

I want to add an automatic entry gate. Two 7' bi-parting gates, outward swing. 14' width totall. One exit loop, and an entry keypad on a gooseneck. I will probably have two rock columns to the outside of each gate post, but might instead do a rock wall.

My asphalt driveway has been removed, so now is the time for any additional prep. I've run hi/lo voltage conduit to each post, and lo voltage conduit to the loop and entry keypad. I will also excavate the holes for posts, columns, and entry keypad.

Regarding the gates, my question is whether installing the posts, columns, gates, swing-arms, etc. for an automatic gate is a DIY type project I should tackle. I've watched videos from gatedepot.com. They look self explanatory but it also seems there are many ways for something to get out of tolerance or go haywire. I'm not sure if I should contract with a fence/gate company instead. All of them here are backed up weeks or months just to come out and give me a quote.

Have you installed your own automatic gate, or hired someone, and what was your experience?

 

[bmaverick]

A few companies offer DIY kits. I would recommend the kits using the Warner Linear actuators as these are strong enough to even push a few inches of snow at the bottom of the gate. It just depends on the height of the gate off the ground, the length of gate (14FT is ideal), and how balanced the gate is on a leveled post.

Here's an example of a HD push arm.

Sentry Gate Opener

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[Diggin It]

I did mine. Piece of cake. Single gate, but I can't see why a double would be much different. Keep the posts plumb and make sure you account for the width of the gate(s) both open and closed. Make sure they operate freely with no resistance before starting on mounting the operators.


I wish I had run conduit under the driveway before it was blacktopped. Oh well.

 

[plowhog]

Keep the posts plumb

Funny, that was one of the things that made me question if I should have a contractor involved. The videos suggest purposely making them out of plumb, by 1/4 inch to 3/8 inch, depending on which video you watch. To account for future sag from the weight of the hanging gate.

 

[Diggin It]

When I say keep them plumb, I mean keep them plumb. That may mean additional posts further back with cross bracing and fencing as in the picture above, or as in my case, guy wires and turnbuckles that can be adjusted to KEEP them plumb.

 

[PuffyC]

I've installed a Ghost Controls kit and it was super easy. Aside from the gates themselves, if you can read and turn a wrench you can install a set of openers.

 

[bmaverick]

... my question is whether installing the posts, columns, gates, swing-arms, etc. for an automatic gate is a DIY type project I should tackle. I've watched videos from gatedepot.com. They look self explanatory but it also seems there are many ways for something to get out of tolerance or go haywire. I'm not sure if I should contract with a fence/gate company instead. All of them here are backed up weeks or months just to come out and give me a quote.

Have you installed your own automatic gate, or hired someone, and what was your experience?

I've installed many gates and posts. To many to really want to count. No two setups ever were identical. The ground soil is a key aspect of how to set posts.

Sandy soil - deeper to set the posts 4FT+, gravel and concrete. This is a very timely event and takes the most labor.

Mixed soil - 4FT deep, gravel and T-slots in the hole. This prevents the need for extra cross bracing above. Cornel and UKY exts both have diagrams to learn from.

Clay soil - 3FT deep or deeper. gravel.

Rock and soil - Hire a contractor with the right equipment. I've done this and it's a real struggle.

I tend to limit the length of the gates to no more than 14FT. And that is with a guide wheel assembly furthest out. I don't use store bought either. Much of the time the ground is gravel or pasture. So, casted wheels last the longest. https://www.menards.com/main/hardwa...-rigid-caster-wheel/3061m/p-1444442245544.htm

Other than a swing arm type of gate, a sliding gate works just as nice. Basically a motor with a rubberized friction wheel. For a Tarter or Behum Country gate in my first post, the top tube with a mounted extension would work.

 

[plowhog]

I wish I had run conduit under the driveway before it was blacktopped.

I just trenched and ran everything from one side to the other.

Has your gate sagged any since you installed it?

Here is a pix of the type of gate I want to install, but maybe a little different style.

 

[grsthegreat]

I have a 300 - 400# steel gate that will have an automatic opener some day. It’s mounted to a 5”x5” x 1/4” steel post buried 4 feet in ground with about 1/2 yard of concrete. I was pouring some slabs and had them top off a load so the concrete didn’t cost me anything. This gate will never sag. I have power to gate, but never get the incentive to add the opener. I plan on putting in a real base mounted opener, not an actuator. I can’t stand waiting for those things to open a gate.

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[TractorGuy]

About 5 years ago I did a pair of 10' farm gates with Mighty Mule openers. I set 6/7 round posts from Tractor Supply and tamped dry concrete mix around them. Haven't had any sagging but if I did the hinges could be adjusted to compensate. Make sure and get your gates and measure carefully before setting the posts. Farm gates are not actually the width they are sold as. The measurement includes the hinges. The easiest way to do it is lay the gates on the ground where you want them then set the posts.

Mine are run on a 12V lawn tractor battery with a 30W solar panel. I put wireless keypads on the outside and inside. Since you are doing outswing you need to set your keypad post far enough out to have room for the gates to open. I originally tried the aluminum keypad post sold by MM but it was flimsy so I switched to plain old 4x4s for the keypads. My outside keypad post is set just far enough to allow someone to pull up to it and be out of the road. My inner keypad post is a good 20 feet from the gates since they are inswing.

I set my gates far enough in to pull my truck and trailer in out of the road so I won't block anyone while they open.

 

[Mrsig]

I did a 12' gate Mighty Mule with a marine battery powered by 30W solar panel. My gate opens out & I have the automatic gate lock also with with key pads for guest.

 

[EddieWalker]

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This is what I ended up buying for my place. It's a single opener, but they also sell double openers. Somebody on here recommended them and I saved the link. A few years later when I was ready to buy something, I read every review that I could find, which also lead me to buying it. Another selling point was that it's a screw type opener, not hydraulic. I haven't had it for a year yet, so I can't say how long it will last, but so far, it's worked like it's supposed to. My only problems have been with the ends of the wire breaking where they are screwed into the panel. I blame myself for that when stripping the wire, but it's also a tight fit and you need to take it slow and be patient.

My Front Gate Project

About 15 years ago I cleared the trees, moved a bunch of dirt and created my entrance. I built the columns and installed the white vinyl three rail fence. Over the years I've sort of lost interest in the white vinyl fence to the point that I'm going to remove it and go with wood. But that's...

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This is my front gate project. I think it's a pretty basic do it yourself project. If you want a fancy gate, that might mean hiring a pro to do that, but otherwise, it's all pretty straight forward. I still need to buy the rock to finish it off, but I'm dealing with too many other "emergency" projects that my wife comes up with.

 

[plowhog]

Since you are doing outswing you need to set your keypad post far enough out to have room for the gates to open.

That's good advice, thanks.

I need to factor the distance back to a driver's seat in a vehicle at a keypad, distance to the front of their vehicle, a comfortable buffer, and distance required for the gate outswing. I guess if I used my 3/4 ton quad cab truck that should work for most vehicles.

 

[bmaverick]

That's good advice, thanks.

I need to factor the distance back to a driver's seat in a vehicle at a keypad, distance to the front of their vehicle, a comfortable buffer, and distance required for the gate outswing. I guess if I used my 3/4 ton quad cab truck that should work for most vehicles.

Went over on the next road by me. There is a gated driveway there. It's not at all a complicated system and all for less than $250.

Using a typical garage door opener, the SCREW DRIVE type, one can fab this to open and close the gate. You get 2 remotes and a keypad. The real question is, do you have power up at the gate location.

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[TractorGuy]

Went over on the next road by me. There is a gated driveway there. It's not at all a complicated system and all for less than $250.

Using a typical garage door opener, the SCREW DRIVE type, one can fab this to open and close the gate. You get 2 remotes and a keypad. The real question is, do you have power up at the gate location.

Genie Signature Series 2 HPc Screw Drive Wi-Fi Enabled Smart Home Garage Door Opener, 3-Button Remotes and Wall Console 4063-TNMSV - The Home Depot

Modernize your residence this time by installing this Genie MachForce Connect c Screw Drive Smart Home Garage Door Opener.

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Those won't stand up outside. Not built for use in rain.

 

[bmaverick]

Those won't stand up outside. Not built for use in rain.

Never said they had to be left in the rain, just make a DIY enclosure.

 

[plowhog]

Just received my first quote from a gate contractor:

14' wide ornamental iron gate, comprised of two 7' gates, powder coated
Final design/style selected and approved by customer
Gates hung with power hinges, liftmaster gate operators, remote keypad for gate entry
Emergency access system included (fire dept.)
Sensor loop(s) excluded - provided by customer (was my request so I can install asphalt first)
Two single button remote controls
Any electrical work excluded-- done by others.
No permit- up to me to obtain permit and pay cost.
No fencing - gate and equipment only

$48,325

Terms: due to rising cost of materials, 50% must be paid up front to lock in price. Installation in approximately 2 months.

 

[grsthegreat]

That’s nuts.

 

[bmaverick]

Just received my first quote from a gate contractor:

14' wide ornamental iron gate, comprised of two 7' gates, powder coated
Final design/style selected and approved by customer
Gates hung with power hinges, liftmaster gate operators, remote keypad for gate entry
Emergency access system included (fire dept.)
Sensor loop(s) excluded - provided by customer (was my request so I can install asphalt first)
Two single button remote controls
Any electrical work excluded-- done by others.
No permit- up to me to obtain permit and pay cost.
No fencing - gate and equipment only

$48,325

Terms: due to rising cost of materials, 50% must be paid up front to lock in price. Installation in approximately 2 months.

For a mere $10K more, you could own a base model 2021 Corvette !

 

[MoKelly]

Just received my first quote from a gate contractor:

14' wide ornamental iron gate, comprised of two 7' gates, powder coated
Final design/style selected and approved by customer
Gates hung with power hinges, liftmaster gate operators, remote keypad for gate entry
Emergency access system included (fire dept.)
Sensor loop(s) excluded - provided by customer (was my request so I can install asphalt first)
Two single button remote controls
Any electrical work excluded-- done by others.
No permit- up to me to obtain permit and pay cost.
No fencing - gate and equipment only

$48,325

Terms: due to rising cost of materials, 50% must be paid up front to lock in price. Installation in approximately 2 months.

To quote John McEnroe —- you cannot be serious!!!