Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.

[Gale Hawkins]

Transparent solar panels for agrivoltaics

Wow a deck/backyard sun screen juice maker.

 

[cqaigy2]

Transparent solar panels for agrivoltaics

Wow a deck/backyard sun screen juice maker.

Those look interesting.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Hyundai XCIENT Fuel Cell Trucks Exceed 1 Million KM Milestone

Sounds like we have a winner.

 

[Hay Dude]

Hyundai XCIENT Fuel Cell Trucks Exceed 1 Million KM Milestone

Sounds like we have a winner.

Hey that’s cool. Curious to know empty weight, payload, etc.
I am a great candidate for a fairly heavy electric truck

 

[Grumpycat]

600 Thousand Hydrogen Fuel Cell Buses And Minibuses Will Be In Service By 2035

In 2021 of that sounds like a tall order.

Just think of all the natural gas they will need to produce that H2. Electricity costs too much to produce H2.

And what about all the haters claiming the power grid and generating capacity is insufficient for EVs? Electrolysis of water into hydrogen uses more than 2x the electricity to move a car a mile than if used directly to charge batteries.

This says 1kg of H2 is approximately equal to 1 gallon of gasoline:

Energy Equivalency of Fuels | H2tools | Hydrogen Tools

This calculator allows you to calculate the amount of each fuel necessary to provide the same energy as 1 kg of hydrogen, 1 million cubic feet natural gas, 1 barrel of crude oil, or 1 gallon of other fuels, based on lower heating values.The conversion factors for this calculator are documented...

h2tools.org

This says the average cost of 1kg of H2 in California was $16.51 but a station with 3x the capacity sells for only $13.11!

Cost to refill | Hydrogen Fuel Cell Partnership

cafcp.org

Meanwhile my ancient power hog Tesla Model S 85 costs $0.035/mile for power.

Have said it before, will say it again, "The almighty dollar is the only honest metric of resource consumption because no man will work for free or surrender resources for less than it is worth."

 

[Gale Hawkins]

This WAS the "Plan." Privatize the Profit -- and Socialize the Costs.

All good Capitalists are Socialists at heart when it comes to dumping on everyone else.

Big oil and gas kept a dirty secret for decades. Now they may pay the price

Phil you may be interested in past and present accountability efforts mentioned in this article. As a former tobacco farmer I remember those accountability cases. I am one of the kids tobacco helped lift out of poor dirt farmer poverty.

Just like with tobacco anyone that can read and write knows the dirty side of fossil fuels today.

At the same time anyone who can read and write knows the outcome of World War II was heavily impacted by almost unlimited access to fossil fuels as was the post war advances of mankind.

A case can be made the bath water needs to be changed out but I am not in favor of throwing the baby out with the dirty bath water.

 

[3930dave]

Big oil and gas kept a dirty secret for decades. Now they may pay the price

Phil you may be interested in past and present accountability efforts mentioned in this article. As a former tobacco farmer I remember those accountability cases. I am one of the kids tobacco helped lift out of poor dirt farmer poverty.

Just like with tobacco anyone that can read and write knows the dirty side of fossil fuels today.

At the same time anyone who can read and write knows the outcome of World War II was heavily impacted by almost unlimited access to fossil fuels as was the post war advances of mankind.

A case can be made the bath water needs to be changed out but I am not in favor of throwing the baby out with the dirty bath water.

A thoughtful, well-balanced post.

Have you met the Internet ?

(Big Wink).

Unfortunately, reading has gone out of fashion. Reading History, very much so. Reading History and actually learning something from it (instead of obscuring it or re-writing it)..... well now, we are heading off into Albino Rhino probabilities Right Thar !

Sigh.

Rgds, D.

 

[3930dave]

Hyundai XCIENT Fuel Cell Trucks Exceed 1 Million KM Milestone

Sounds like we have a winner.

I like the engineering I see from Hyundai, in general.

That looks like an excellent solution for regional work.

While pure electric has it's place, I'm also a fan of hydrogen solutions. Put enough H2 units on the road, and you could re-water Cali.

Rgds, D.

 

[Hay Dude]

Just think of all the natural gas they will need to produce that H2. Electricity costs too much to produce H2.

And what about all the haters claiming the power grid and generating capacity is insufficient for EVs? Electrolysis of water into hydrogen uses more than 2x the electricity to move a car a mile than if used directly to charge batteries.

This says 1kg of H2 is approximately equal to 1 gallon of gasoline:

Energy Equivalency of Fuels | H2tools | Hydrogen Tools

This calculator allows you to calculate the amount of each fuel necessary to provide the same energy as 1 kg of hydrogen, 1 million cubic feet natural gas, 1 barrel of crude oil, or 1 gallon of other fuels, based on lower heating values.The conversion factors for this calculator are documented...

h2tools.org

This says the average cost of 1kg of H2 in California was $16.51 but a station with 3x the capacity sells for only $13.11!

Cost to refill | Hydrogen Fuel Cell Partnership

cafcp.org

Meanwhile my ancient power hog Tesla Model S 85 costs $0.035/mile for power.

Have said it before, will say it again, "The almighty dollar is the only honest metric of resource consumption because no man will work for free or surrender resources for less than it is worth."

I don’t think all of them are “haters”. Maybe just a healthy dose of skepticism??
Seems reasonable to believe if theres roving brown outs and such already happening in peak AC use months that adding millions of electric charge vehicles could cripple the system (unless it’s upgraded) and upgraded with what? More coal? NG? More Nuke? They are all socially unacceptable, right?
Seems like all we are left with is foreign made solar panels and windmills to increase output.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

A new fuel cell electrolyte

The trillions of $$$ to be gained in cleaner (at point of USE) energy sales will keep research in high gear. If 3% of research pans out I will be surprised yet pleased.

The Financial Star | AmmPower

I am getting the sense there is a future for green ammonia but it's a subject that I yet understand to any significant level.