Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.

[lman]

You were injected with a rfid chip when you were vaccinated. When you walk or ride a bicycle on the road, you will be taxed.

 

[Whidbey]

I don’t.

Could you expand on your comment? I am not sure if it means GM can't make quality EVs or that Musk doesn't deserve credit for innovation.

 

[Jstpssng]

You were injected with a rfid chip when you were vaccinated. When you walk or ride a bicycle on the road, you will be taxed.

I knew there was some reason those black helicopters have been flying around lately. They're pretty clever, disguising them as dragonflies.

I don't want to hijack the thread though. It's good to see that some people realize we need to find a better way to pay for the infrastructure which we all use to varying extents.

 

[sd455dan]

Plus, the tow ratings are based on flatland statistics. I live in the country, and have a 1000' hill between me and any supplier. I drive a compact pickup, and hitch a trailer on the back if I have large loads, like a couple feet of plywood, to haul. I have to downshift to make it over the hill. The owner's manual says I have a 5000 lb. towing limit, but I'm lucky to tow a ton up a steep hill in 2nd gear. I could imagine a battery melting under that load. How a F150 would do towing a travel trailer in the Cascades where you encounter 15 miles of 6% grade is hard to imagine, particularly when you end up on high plateau and don't have a chance to regen because there's no downhill.

TFL will test these new EV trucks on either their IKE test or to Loveland? as soon as the trucks become available.

Recently the 1/2 tons , GM gas and the Ford F 150 hybrid both went into overheat conditions during TFL's test, due to the fact that they (GM and Ford) removed the auxiliary trans coolers.
Nothing like spending big money on a new truck to find it overheats trying to haul a couple side by sides up a mountain.
For hauling weight up a big hill Diesels are still a better choice, "so far"

 

[Jstpssng]

TFL will test these new EV trucks when they become available on either their IKE test or to Loveland? as soon as the trucks become available.

Recently the 1/2 tons GM gas and the Ford F 150 hybrid both went into overheat conditions due to the fact that they (GM and Ford) removed the auxiliary trans coolers.
Nothing like spending big money on a new truck to find it overheats trying to haul a couple side by sides up a mountain.

We're finding that with our company trucks. Apparently transmissions were lasting too long, so they eliminated the tranny coolers.

Actually with synthetic it isn't as bad, and the cooler is included if you get the towing package.

 

[sd455dan]

We're finding that with our company trucks. Apparently transmissions were lasting too long, so they eliminated the tranny coolers.

Actually with synthetic it isn't as bad, and the cooler is included if you get the towing package.

Yeah I just cant get behind the idea that running trans oil temps in the 250*-300*F range is anything "Normal" -even with pure synthetic ATF

 

[Grumpycat]

I don't think anyone has taken the battery and motor problem as seriously as Tesla. Everyone else says, "We'll just partner with somebody." Tesla partnered with Panasonic, but Tesla really drove the development and manufacturing to new levels. "Everybody" still "knows" Tesla's tiny cells are impractical, yet Tesla is kicking everyone's butt.

I don't think Tesla took the building of an automobile seriously enough. Thought they could hire people from other manufacturers and magically have a world class automobile.

Tesla should have used their newfound wealth to buy Ford. Ford knows how to build a chassis and interior. And how to shake the bad apples out of their dealer network.

 

[Steppenwolfe]

I took delivery yesterday of my f150 hybrid. This is going to take a little getting used to, but with a trip to Charlotte and back today, 400 miles or so, I love it. It is wicked quick and very smooth; and I've yet to figure out when or why it goes into electric mode.

 

[Hay Dude]

Plus, the tow ratings are based on flatland statistics. I live in the country, and have a 1000' hill between me and any supplier. I drive a compact pickup, and hitch a trailer on the back if I have large loads, like a couple feet of plywood, to haul. I have to downshift to make it over the hill. The owner's manual says I have a 5000 lb. towing limit, but I'm lucky to tow a ton up a steep hill in 2nd gear. I could imagine a battery melting under that load. How a F150 would do towing a travel trailer in the Cascades where you encounter 15 miles of 6% grade is hard to imagine, particularly when you end up on high plateau and don't have a chance to regen because there's no downhill.

Lots of Italians in the Cascades, Lar lol

 

[buckeyefarmer]

Could you expand on your comment? I am not sure if it means GM can't make quality EVs or that Musk doesn't deserve credit for innovation.

I don’t think GM can build better quality cars than Tesla. The last GM car I had was really poor quality. Will see in the long run.