Time to check out the generator.

   / Time to check out the generator. #1  

JasperFrank

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Lost electric today for 8 hours. It was a good inspiration for me to test out the generator before winter. Got it all working fine and ran out some old gas it had in it. Last winter, never needed it. Good to know its there and working.
 
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Good thing to keep on top of. I tried to start mine after several years of non-use, and got nothing from the electric start even though the battery was charged. Turns out the starter had gone bad. Replaced that and it started right up and purred like a kitten. I have told myself I just need to start and run it monthly.
 
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If one has been sitting around for a while, you may need to flash it. Make sure it's making electricity. If not, a quick flash is to plug in an angle grinder, pull the trigger, and give it a spin. All you need is a trickle when the generator is running for the field to pick up and excite itself. If that works, the grinder will start to run, so be ready to let go of the trigger or flip the paddle off.

If the angle grinder doesn't work, turn the generator off. Really. The next part will electrocute you if the generator is running.

Get a battery. Most people use a 12 volt car battery because you have to clip one end of jumper cables to the battery and the other end into a receptacle. If you have 240v out, short the battery across the two hot legs. If you only have 120v., do the hot and neutral. Don't worry. It's AC, remember? The magnetism will figure it out.

If you get all sorts of sparks, you probably did it right. Check all the breakers, because you may have tripped them. Start her up and see if she makes electric.

If you are a person of modest morals and a P. T. Barnum even break sort of guy, you might take advantage of that guy who got the motor running but, "The dad gum thing is dead."
 
   / Time to check out the generator. #4  
If one has been sitting around for a while, you may need to flash it. Make sure it's making electricity. If not, a quick flash is to plug in an angle grinder, pull the trigger, and give it a spin. All you need is a trickle when the generator is running for the field to pick up and excite itself. If that works, the grinder will start to run, so be ready to let go of the trigger or flip the paddle off.

If the angle grinder doesn't work, turn the generator off. Really. The next part will electrocute you if the generator is running.

Get a battery. Most people use a 12 volt car battery because you have to clip one end of jumper cables to the battery and the other end into a receptacle. If you have 240v out, short the battery across the two hot legs. If you only have 120v., do the hot and neutral. Don't worry. It's AC, remember? The magnetism will figure it out.

If you get all sorts of sparks, you probably did it right. Check all the breakers, because you may have tripped them. Start her up and see if she makes electric.

If you are a person of modest morals and a P. T. Barnum even break sort of guy, you might take advantage of that guy who got the motor running but, "The dad gum thing is dead."
I have a small 120v drill I use to excited my one generator, lot safer then the angle grinder!

I picked up an nice Honeywell/Honda generator a few months ago since the new house doesn't have a standby yet. Had to clean pull the bowl and clean it but otherwise its a good runner.
Still need to change the oil and make up a cord to connect to the gen panel.

My plan is to try to do a monthly run for about 15min.
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Yep... Pacific Gas and Electric plans power shutoffs to 25,000 Monday in the name of safety.
 
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A good plan is to start and run your generator 10 minutes. I have been doing this for 25 years and twice I found problems. A rodent chewed fuel line and dirty plugs. Not a good time to find out when you need it. We lose power at least 2 times a year for more than 8 hours and 4 times for a couple hours at a time. The last time took out my refrigerator compressor. I am in the process of having a standby generator installed. Not cheap but peace of mind is worth it.
Bottom line, keep your gas fresh and run periodically.
 
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Keep your powder dry has been replaced by keep fuel fresh.

Growing up the power never went out as a kid except at Grandma’s cabin due to lightening…

Today’s hot windy utility shut off is a repeat of last year…
 
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Rarely have I found issues but once it was rodent caused and this weekend 2 hours in at 80% load bank the genset 200 amp breaker tripped… reset and it tripped again at 60%

My max load is just under 40% but sourcing a replacement 200 amp breaker now…

Bad Breaker is something only encountered once before and from a residential rental where tenant duct taped to prevent tripping when she cooked food for her church… the breaker just crumbled in my hands…
 
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Had a five and a half power outage last Saturday. Champion gen worked great, not cold enough to cause problems in the water system buildings. All went well until I went to put the gen back in the garage. In darkness, just the three wheeler light on, I tripped and did a faceplant on the garage floor. Bloody face and bruised ribs, somehow got back on the bike, headed for the house a hundred feet away. Crawled up the stairs, called the other half about my situation. Not a pretty sight. Dragged myself into the house, felt like I got run over by a truck. Forty five minutes for the paramedics to arrive, twenty five minutes from the city. Checked vitals, breathing, pushed and prodded, I'll live a while longer. Declined an ER visit, last place I want to be at this time. Sleeping on a recliner all week. At age 70, falls are a whole lot more painful. AS a side note, I run the gen every other month, use premium gas and turn off the fuel to shut down. Love the electric start. Be careful out there.
 
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@metalbender sorry to hear about the bad fall, but I am glad it wasn't worse.

Great advice to be mindful when working alone or in the dark.

Best wishes for a speedy recovery.

Peter
 
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<snip>I tripped and did a faceplant on the garage floor. <snip>
Hope you recover quickly!
As we age gravity becomes more complicated and poor results take longer to heal. I use to be able to tear a tendon and be back operational in a week or two. Now it takes a month or two.
 
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Sorry to hear of your injury, but glad it wasn't more serious.
I think as we age it's important to begin to be more purposeful with our movements and not rely on deteriorating reflexes. My eyes and reflexes aren't what they used to be.
As far as generator exercising, I got rid of my gas generator and have a PTO generator that I run once a year.
 
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Ouch Metalbender, be careful man. You ain't a young stud anymore. Falling is the most frequent killer of seasoned people out there.
 
   / Time to check out the generator. #14  
If one has been sitting around for a while, you may need to flash it. Make sure it's making electricity. If not, a quick flash is to plug in an angle grinder, pull the trigger, and give it a spin. All you need is a trickle when the generator is running for the field to pick up and excite itself. If that works, the grinder will start to run, so be ready to let go of the trigger or flip the paddle off.

If the angle grinder doesn't work, turn the generator off. Really. The next part will electrocute you if the generator is running.

Get a battery. Most people use a 12 volt car battery because you have to clip one end of jumper cables to the battery and the other end into a receptacle. If you have 240v out, short the battery across the two hot legs. If you only have 120v., do the hot and neutral. Don't worry. It's AC, remember? The magnetism will figure it out.

If you get all sorts of sparks, you probably did it right. Check all the breakers, because you may have tripped them. Start her up and see if she makes electric.

If you are a person of modest morals and a P. T. Barnum even break sort of guy, you might take advantage of that guy who got the motor running but, "The dad gum thing is dead."
Good info.
Something I need to know before it happens to me.
Couple of links:
https://www.google.com/search?q=fla...e&ie=UTF-8#kpvalbx=_401kYeHKHJnCytMPuqqDoAw15
Generator Field Flashing Review - Engineers Edge
 
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One great reason not to let your small generator run out of fuel or shutoff under load is that those things tend to remove the residual magnetism in generator. Which would force needing to reflash the generator.

You can reflash a generator with a 9V battery. You don't need much.

All the best,

Peter
 
   / Time to check out the generator.
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Generators do sit for long periods. At least mine does. Every three years or so we will have a snow and outage that will last a day or two. Then there is always the driver that runs off the main road and hits a pole. This is every year, yet the outage is usually very short, so I don't fire up the generator. One never knows just how long the outage is going to be. I tend to forget about doing maintenance on the generator. Its a 25 year old 4400 Watt Homelite generator that only does 120 Volts.
Two years ago, we had a major snow/ ice storm where we lost power for 11 days and could not get down the hill to the valley; too may trees fell over the road and the snow was higher than anyone's 4WD truck or car could deal with. We all, up the hill were isolated.
To my surprise, mice had eaten the fuel line on the generator, and wasps had filled the receptacles with dirt, making nests. Mice had also chewed through a number of extension cords.
Fortunately we had lots of fire wood, stored food and water, candles, oil lamps, D Cell radios and lots of diesel and gasoline. At the start of any storm, we fill the bath tubs with water to flush with. Wife's car had a built in usb charger for the cell phones. The land line had also failed.
It took two days to get the generator working again cause it was cold, cold makes things difficult, and I couldn't get down the hill to get any sort of replacement parts. Do with what you have.
Once running, the generator spit out its entire muffler system. Again, do with what you have. Got it to work with some old water pipes I had around.
After two days, we did make a comfortable, live-able house, and the generator was a main part of that for the next days, while I chain sawed the fallen trees and used the tractor to clear a path back down to civilisation.
We have backups in our heads, yet, a back up is only as good as the last time you tested it. :)
 
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I have two small Honda generators and eventually got tired of changing the oil & test running them every season. I now have an 18 KW PTO generator which I use behind my 60 HP tractor. No maintenance and it will power the whole house.
 
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When it gets super cold out, I bring my little suitcase Honda Generator in, and put it in the back hallway.

It has always started in the cold, but it makes ME feel better to bring it in.

SR
 
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In addition to my 15kw PTO generator I keep 2 Yamahas (1800 and 3500) inverters for around the property, and for morning coffee in the rare outage.
 
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We have a 6500 watt “portable” generator. Runs lots of things when the power is out. Try to fire it up at least quarterly. It is 10 years old. Change the oil and spark plug occasionally. Electric start still on the original battery.
 

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