Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.

[txdon]

Has anyone seen a mandatory hurricane evacuation from a major population center along the Gulf coast? Houston was ordered to evacuate, because of my job I was considered essential and stayed. This was after Katrina and people thought Houston would be underwater. My boss evacuated and it took 7 hours to go 50 miles he was just outside Houston city limits when he realized he was running low on fuel in his ICE vehicle and traffic was still bareley moving so he made a major decision to turn around and head back home toward the hurricane. He got home in 30 minutes and had a drink and waited out the storm. Just think if the majority of those vehicles were EV, where would the hundreds of thousands be able to charge up all about the same distance from the city?

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Has anyone seen a mandatory hurricane evacuation from a major population center along the Gulf coast? Houston was ordered to evacuate, because of my job I was considered essential and stayed. This was after Katrina and people thought Houston would be underwater. My boss evacuated and it took 7 hours to go 50 miles he was just outside Houston city limits when he realized he was running low on fuel in his ICE vehicle and traffic was still bareley moving so he made a major decision to turn around and head back home toward the hurricane. He got home in 30 minutes and had a drink and waited out the storm. Just think if the majority of those vehicles were EV, where would the hundreds of thousands be able to charge up all about the same distance from the city?

Just like with fossil fuel vehicles I'm sure there's some EV owners that would be like your boss and out of juice at the wrong time.

 

[Hay Dude]

Has anyone seen a mandatory hurricane evacuation from a major population center along the Gulf coast? Houston was ordered to evacuate, because of my job I was considered essential and stayed. This was after Katrina and people thought Houston would be underwater. My boss evacuated and it took 7 hours to go 50 miles he was just outside Houston city limits when he realized he was running low on fuel in his ICE vehicle and traffic was still bareley moving so he made a major decision to turn around and head back home toward the hurricane. He got home in 30 minutes and had a drink and waited out the storm. Just think if the majority of those vehicles were EV, where would the hundreds of thousands be able to charge up all about the same distance from the city?

Used a similar example scenario months ago in the thread of just a simple traffic jam in NYC.
Couple EVs go dead in the Lincoln tunnel and bammo -grid lock for miles.
Still no satisfactory answer to this answer I have seen.

 

[Steppenwolfe]

Yeah, well, here’s a chance to buck that trend. Why make poor people subsidize rich people’s toys of virtue
Its wrong.

For the love of God... Where were you during the HUGE tax break for the ULTRA wealthy four years ago??? Cut me a break... And gimme my F150 Lightening already...

 

[Steppenwolfe]

If it helps, the bottom 61% of Americans pay no federal income tax, so it’s really ‘rich’ people subsidizing other ‘rich’ people. Unless it’s someone in the bottom 61% buying that EV of course.

EXACTLY !!! I figure the Gubment owes me a nice subsidy on my ordered Lightening; I already paid for it...

 

[California]

Used a similar example scenario months ago in the thread of just a simple traffic jam in NYC.
Couple EVs go dead in the Lincoln tunnel and bammo -grid lock for miles.
Still no satisfactory answer to this answer I have seen.

Dunno about Lincoln Tunnel but at the San Francisco Bay Bridge, a similar choke point, Caltrans has tow trucks already there that can arrive in a minute or two and the CHP cruisers have push bars. A little planning makes a stalled vehicle no big deal. The only incident that I recall made the news, was a Tesla that pulled over and stopped with the driver sound asleep.

 

[Steppenwolfe]

Dunno about Lincoln Tunnel but at the San Francisco Bay Bridge, a similar choke point, Caltrans has tow trucks already there that can arrive in a minute or two and the CHP cruisers have push bars. A little planning makes a stalled vehicle no big deal. The only incident that I recall made the news, was a Tesla that pulled over and stopped with the driver sound asleep.

You've obviously never been on the Lincoln or GWB... there is virtually no rescue...

 

[txdon]

Just like with fossil fuel vehicles I'm sure there's some EV owners that would be like your boss and out of juice at the wrong time.

He started with a full tank, what do you mean "wrong time"? Would not everyones EV start dying at the same time, which would be the wrong time?

 

[3930dave]

Dunno about Lincoln Tunnel but at the San Francisco Bay Bridge, a similar choke point, Caltrans has tow trucks already there that can arrive in a minute or two and the CHP cruisers have push bars. A little planning makes a stalled vehicle no big deal. The only incident that I recall made the news, was a Tesla that pulled over and stopped with the driver sound asleep.

Bay Bridge has an advantage.

Toss the driver overboard, tow the Tesla. Gotta Thin the Herd, when you can...

Rgds, D.

 

[3930dave]

Has anyone seen a mandatory hurricane evacuation from a major population center along the Gulf coast? Houston was ordered to evacuate, because of my job I was considered essential and stayed. This was after Katrina and people thought Houston would be underwater. My boss evacuated and it took 7 hours to go 50 miles he was just outside Houston city limits when he realized he was running low on fuel in his ICE vehicle and traffic was still bareley moving so he made a major decision to turn around and head back home toward the hurricane. He got home in 30 minutes and had a drink and waited out the storm. Just think if the majority of those vehicles were EV, where would the hundreds of thousands be able to charge up all about the same distance from the city?

I've been to Houston and DFW..... you've got some big metroplexes there, with lots of folks to move.

Finally took a break a few Winters back, and flew to FLA. Rented a car, and drove to Key West, as we'd never been b4.

Canuck ignorance (mine)..... used to wide open spaces up here.... I was expecting Miami to be big, but what surprised me was the drive down The Keys. Waaayyyyy more built up than I expected, all along The Keys.... driving along, I noted the Emergency Evac Route signs.

Even closing down the south-bound side for Evac north, there's really not that much road to work with.... I was driving south that time of day, perfect weather, no storms predicted, thinking "Wow, can't imagine moving all these people north, fast". Launched early enough (b4 storm), I'd say your only guaranteed quick transit would be private plane, chopper, or very fast boat, down that far on the Keys.

One of the first thing I thought about, not that far off in time, is mass EV traffic, migrating on "normal" long-weekends here..... definitely a scaling/capacity issue today and near-term.

Southern big USA cities, during hurricane Evac.... several Orders of Magnitude next-level again...

Rgds, D.