Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.

[Gale Hawkins]

EPA Has Raised Fuel Economy Requirements Higher Than Ever

Now I get the magic of the 2026 date from this article. It's the winding down of the ICEV age. To hit the 40 mile per gallon requirement fleet wide is going to require many many EVS in that fleet.

 

[RoyJackson]

EPA Has Raised Fuel Economy Requirements Higher Than Ever

Now I get the magic of the 2026 date from this article. It's the winding down of the ICEV age. To hit the 40 mile per gallon requirement fleet wide is going to require many many EVS in that fleet.

Next election will quite likely bring the EPA out of the clouds and back to reality...

 

[airbiscuit]

If we didn't have CAFE standards, we would still have vehicles getting 17mpg. Big Oil and Lazy Detroit would see to that.

 

[RoyJackson]

If we didn't have CAFE standards, we would still have vehicles getting 17mpg. Big Oil and Lazy Detroit would see to that.

Yeah, but 40 MPG is too big an increase for 4 years.
30-33 average MPG by 2026 is probably obtainable
Of course, that means all governmental vehicles as well...

 

[Snobdds]

If this thread is indicative of the ratio of EV users to the general population...EV's are going to have a real tough time gaining market share in non urban areas. The batteries are just not able to store the type of power needed to make ICE non existent for rural and cold areas of the country.

 

[Snobdds]

If we didn't have CAFE standards, we would still have vehicles getting 17mpg. Big Oil and Lazy Detroit would see to that.

The games that have been crated to get around CAFE standards are the best. For every gas guzzling high volume SUV produced there is a small low volume car that only exists to offset and skew the overall average.

I see a lot more small cars that don't sell being created as a hedge...

 

[Gale Hawkins]

I think the general public is moving to ev's as fast as possible. There's just not enough batteries available yet and that should be changing in the next 5 years but the move to EV will happen in some areas as pointed out well before other areas. We just do not need to throw any taxpayer funds to the effort of subsidizing EVS. Nor should be subsidizing fossil fuels either.

 

[Snobdds]

I think the general public is moving to ev's as fast as possible. There's just not enough batteries available yet and that should be changing in the next 5 years but the move to EV will happen in some areas as pointed out well before other areas. We just do not need to throw any taxpayer funds to the effort of subsidizing EVS. Nor should be subsidizing fossil fuels either.

Without upgrading the grid in major cities, where is the electrical capacity going to come from. I think that is going to be a hidden tax in the EV push. Cities will need huge inflows of capital investment to upgrade the grid. The BBB bill hid those subsidies in the form of charging stations, but the real money was going to companies that could upgrade infrastructure. The thing that will kill EV fast and hard is when people have to make a choice on what to spend their limited electric resources on; home use or transportation use.

 

[RoyJackson]

I think the general public is moving to ev's as fast as possible. There's just not enough batteries available yet and that should be changing in the next 5 years but the move to EV will happen in some areas as pointed out well before other areas. We just do not need to throw any taxpayer funds to the effort of subsidizing EVS. Nor should be subsidizing fossil fuels either.

I don't, but we'll see...

As far as taxpayer funds, not so sure I agree with your thoughts on that either

 

[sd455dan]

Not sure if this was posted yet but John Deere bought a high end electric conversion company.

https://electrek.co/2021/12/15/john-deere-buys-kreisel-electric-plans-electrify-lineup/

a snippet:
Senior vice president of John Deere Power Systems, commented on the announcement:

John Deere is committed to a future with zero emissions propulsion systems and is investing in and developing technologies for batteries as a sole- or hybrid-propulsion system for vehicles. Kreisel specializes in battery-electric vehicles, or BEVs, which use chemical energy stored in rechargeable battery packs, with no secondary source of propulsion.

JD getting into the electric game