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   / Online tv question #71  
Used to be $50 when it first came out. I agree, $65 a month isn't much if any savings over basic satellite service with local channels. Plus the interface is cumbersome. I like my Dish Network and on site DVR.
We're paying $30 for basic, and for us personally that's really only for the local morning/evening news, Wheel of Fortune after the evening news, and sometimes we also watch Shark Tank on fridays. The only reason we don't cancel it altogether is coz of the spanish language channels for my mother-in-law when she stays over.

Our nightly TV entertainment is all on Netflix, Amazon Prime, CinemaHD and Kodi (both sideloaded onto the Firestick), and Youtube.
 
   / Online tv question #72  
We're paying $30 for basic, and for us personally that's really only for the local morning/evening news, Wheel of Fortune after the evening news, and sometimes we also watch Shark Tank on fridays. The only reason we don't cancel it altogether is coz of the spanish language channels for my mother-in-law when she stays over.

Our nightly TV entertainment is all on Netflix, Amazon Prime, CinemaHD and Kodi (both sideloaded onto the Firestick), and Youtube.
Are you referring to YouTube TV? The $64.99 plan is their base plan. I've never heard of a $30 plan and I see nothing offered like that. Care to share details?
 
   / Online tv question #73  
Are you referring to YouTube TV? The $64.99 plan is their base plan. I've never heard of a $30 plan and I see nothing offered like that. Care to share details?
No, I mean basic cable, just the local channels.
 
   / Online tv question #75  
I’m not familiar with the Firestick. Why is it superior over Roku?
Ok, here are the basics...for the devices, price will be about the same. Amazon is famous for its deals, so you can get them very cheap($25) at times.
Menus: this comes down to preference. Firestick blends all available app info and suggests things you might like based on what you watch. Some people like that, some don't. Roku's menu is more customizable to suit some people's needs.
Firestick's advantage with Amazon Prime is not the app (as someone mentioned, you can get it on Roku). If you already have Prime, it works with Alexa and voice controls. That is awesome if you like that sort of thing. Some people hate it.
Amazon also has the money advantage which tends to mean the get better technology sooner. Things like Dolby Vision HDR, for example are only in Firestick...I'm sure Roku will eventually add.
Firestick does a better job and can be used to control more of your devices associated with your TV. That means fewer remotes to deal with. Voice can be used to simply say something like "play the Godfather" and it will go to the right app and start to play.
I'd prefer not to keep feeding the Amazon machine, but they simply have a better product imho and the only likely real competition (Apple or Google, maybe MS) are no better in terms of my comfort with them as companies.
 
   / Online tv question #76  
No, I mean basic cable, just the local channels.
Why are you paying a cable co. to watch local channels in Lake County, IL? You would get all of the local Chicago channels with an antenna and probably more subchannels than you get with cable.
 
   / Online tv question #77  
Currently I pay $45/mo for crappy 5mbps internet that isnt capable of streaming on a single device without buffering let alone multiple devices in my household of 4.

So, I pay $125/mo to direct TV to get the shows that I desire. So TV + Internet = $175/mo (about $6/day)

Im not to proud to say I enjoy a few TV shows from time to time. Certainly worth the $6/month for ME and my family. I wont judge anyone on their TV preferences or lack of wanting TV. But I personally am not gonna live under a rock with no electronic entertainment.

The wife has a handful of shows she watches, as do the kids. I prefer Science and history channel shows, as well as college sports.

I have explored looking into a streaming service that checks all the boxes and gets the wife and kids the shows they want, as well as the shows and sports channels I want.

Youtube TV is pretty darn close. And at $65/mo seems like a nice savings over $125/mo of direct TV. The problem is internet. All we have ever had is 5mb DSL. My parents that live next door tried the T-mobile home internet ($60/mo) but found it buffers alot with just 2 devices. And with direct TV, my only internet requirement is simply browsing the web (like being on TBN right now), so my current 5mbps is fine. I cannot see spending $20 more per month for internet and still not be able to stream.

However, they just ran fiber this past month. Their lowest 100mbps package is $110/month. Sure, I could switch to that, then get youtube TV for $65....but then I'd be right back at $175/mo. So I see no advantage.

So alot of these comparisons, and hearing friends talk about how much they save with roku, youtube TV, netflix, hulu, disney+, etc etc etc......how much are you really saving by being required to have much more expensive internet.

In fact, I could get by without home internet with how good smart phones are now. Sometimes I just prefer sitting at a desktop with a full monitor though. So when comparing these cheaper TV packages through a streaming service....dont forget to include the cost of your internet. Because without it, you wouldnt have TV. But without internet, I still have my TV.

I can remember 30-40 years ago when satellite was all the rave. 100's of channels instead of the local 6 or so. So many people thought it was crazy to PAY for TV. Like who does that...but the benefit was not having to rent VHS movies, AND no commercials. So you could get free tv and deal with commercials....or pay and get rid of them. But now look at where we are...we are paying for TV and STILL have commercials. Who would have thought this 30 years ago.

At the end of the day though....we are paying for "content". One way of the other, through your provider, internet, subscriptions to streaming services, etc. And these streaming services like youtube TV and hulu that are gaining traction still have a very small piece of the pie compared to dish, direct TV, and cable. And I cant help but think that sooner or later.....the prices are gonna get alot closer. As the big players start loosing market share, they will adapt/adjust. And as companies like youtube TV gain traction....I dont see them staying at $65/month. So I see no reason for ME to hurry up the cycle and start paying $110/month for internet just to be a part of that, when at the end of the day there is no savings in it for me. But each person and circumstances are different
 
   / Online tv question #78  
Currently I pay $45/mo for crappy 5mbps internet that isnt capable of streaming on a single device without buffering let alone multiple devices in my household of 4.

So, I pay $125/mo to direct TV to get the shows that I desire. So TV + Internet = $175/mo (about $6/day)

Im not to proud to say I enjoy a few TV shows from time to time. Certainly worth the $6/month for ME and my family. I wont judge anyone on their TV preferences or lack of wanting TV. But I personally am not gonna live under a rock with no electronic entertainment.

The wife has a handful of shows she watches, as do the kids. I prefer Science and history channel shows, as well as college sports.

I have explored looking into a streaming service that checks all the boxes and gets the wife and kids the shows they want, as well as the shows and sports channels I want.

Youtube TV is pretty darn close. And at $65/mo seems like a nice savings over $125/mo of direct TV. The problem is internet. All we have ever had is 5mb DSL. My parents that live next door tried the T-mobile home internet ($60/mo) but found it buffers alot with just 2 devices. And with direct TV, my only internet requirement is simply browsing the web (like being on TBN right now), so my current 5mbps is fine. I cannot see spending $20 more per month for internet and still not be able to stream.

However, they just ran fiber this past month. Their lowest 100mbps package is $110/month. Sure, I could switch to that, then get youtube TV for $65....but then I'd be right back at $175/mo. So I see no advantage.

So alot of these comparisons, and hearing friends talk about how much they save with roku, youtube TV, netflix, hulu, disney+, etc etc etc......how much are you really saving by being required to have much more expensive internet.

In fact, I could get by without home internet with how good smart phones are now. Sometimes I just prefer sitting at a desktop with a full monitor though. So when comparing these cheaper TV packages through a streaming service....dont forget to include the cost of your internet. Because without it, you wouldnt have TV. But without internet, I still have my TV.

I can remember 30-40 years ago when satellite was all the rave. 100's of channels instead of the local 6 or so. So many people thought it was crazy to PAY for TV. Like who does that...but the benefit was not having to rent VHS movies, AND no commercials. So you could get free tv and deal with commercials....or pay and get rid of them. But now look at where we are...we are paying for TV and STILL have commercials. Who would have thought this 30 years ago.

At the end of the day though....we are paying for "content". One way of the other, through your provider, internet, subscriptions to streaming services, etc. And these streaming services like youtube TV and hulu that are gaining traction still have a very small piece of the pie compared to dish, direct TV, and cable. And I cant help but think that sooner or later.....the prices are gonna get alot closer. As the big players start loosing market share, they will adapt/adjust. And as companies like youtube TV gain traction....I dont see them staying at $65/month. So I see no reason for ME to hurry up the cycle and start paying $110/month for internet just to be a part of that, when at the end of the day there is no savings in it for me. But each person and circumstances are different
Give it a year or so and they will get around to turning on the fiber. It takes a while for the contractor to run the fiber for your area, and for them to hook up the network.

We had 1mbps dsl at our place.

It was a couple years from the time they ran fiber near our street before they turned it on.

After they did, they ran a special program for existing customers of the 1mbps and 3mbps download speed. They offered us 50mbps for the current price we were paying. No increase as long as we stayed as a customer. Make sure and ask about special promotions for existing customers

There was a 1 time fee of $150 for them to run a new line to the house and upgrade the phone jack. We dumped the dish, put an amplified antennae on the roof to pick up the local stations (20 all together). And used Netflix and prime for streaming. We also got 300 plus internet channels through the Pluto app when we upgraded to a smart TV.

Once covid hit, they bumped us to 100mbps speed for the existing price.
 
   / Online tv question #79  
You typically won't see anyone run fiber to rural homes, just too expensive. I know we won't do it as of now and probably never will unless the home owner is willing to pay for the cable to be installed. We don't charge for installation, free modem and $65 a month for 1 gig up and down. Fiber is expensive as is the man hours to put it in the ground. We do have a couple of rural neighborhoods we have done with 10 acre lots but that's about it. And I think the only reason we did that one is because someone knew someone. I think with T-Mobile and Verizon Home Internet plans things will get better as long as you are fairly close to a tower. That is the least expensive way to do rural internet.
 
   / Online tv question #80  
I think with T-Mobile and Verizon Home Internet plans things will get better as long as you are fairly close to a tower.
There is a rush around here at least, to get people on fiber networks, before the 5G home networks are all finished. But, either way rural customers finally have hope for decent affordable service.

The 5G networks will eventually have small "nodes", that are compact enough to be discretely installed on power poles, and buildings. So, in theory you will always be in range of a tower.
 

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