5th wheel hitch for 3 point.

[DutchInNZ]

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That pickup looks quite rearing up because of the very heavy rear loading; no problems with directional stability of the tow?

 

[Fxfymn413]

I move my 32 foot hydraulic dovetail trailer with my 4060 regularly using a home made three point hitch without any issues.

If I were in your shoes I would find the part needed to convert the hitch back to a GN and just change it out when I needed to move it with the tractor. It is a one pin deal to take the fifth wheel adaptor off and a three point hitch to move a GN is much easier to buy or make.

 

[ranger danger]

That pickup looks quite rearing up because of the very heavy rear loading; no problems with directional stability of the tow?

That picture is an optical illusion. The trucks rear tires are in a dip. When its on level ground, it is sitting level with that load on it.

 

[ranger danger]

I move my 32 foot hydraulic dovetail trailer with my 4060 regularly using a home made three point hitch without any issues.

If I were in your shoes I would find the part needed to convert the hitch back to a GN and just change it out when I needed to move it with the tractor. It is a one pin deal to take the fifth wheel adaptor off and a three point hitch to move a GN is much easier to buy or make.

The neck on this trailer is 2 pinch bolts, not a pin on. I have the gooseneck sleeve. Also, that conversion sleeve is heavy and I'm lazy so I think I'll try to build something with a 5th hitch on it

 

[Vigo327]

Were you able to snag that used piece off CL? It gets you like 75% of the way there. To me the thing about building something is it would be easy to build something that wasn't nice, but harder to build something nice. Easy as in, you need a 3" ID pipe or even square tube with a couple of holes drilled through it sideways for cross-pins to engage the groove in the kingpin. If you want the tongue weight to ride on your cross pins you wouldn't even need a 'wear surface' on top, although that would just be a piece of plate. You back up under the trailer, lift your 3" id hole up to the kingpin, get out and put in your crosspins.

But if you wanted something with the actual opening you could 'slide' onto the kingpin and then push/pull a single lever to latch it and actually have a nice-ish flat surface on top etc, i think you'd be a million miles ahead to buy that $75 thing and adapt it. While it would sure be nicer to have 'the real thing', i think the main thing it gets you for a tiny amount of miles of low speed use, is just not having to be as good at backing up to a trailer.

 

[Xfaxman]

I think I'll try to build something with a 5th hitch on it

I have seen this idea used on a 3 point hitch:

It would fit in place of the ball in mine:https://omni-mfg.com/OMNI-Combo-3-point-Trailer-Hitch-Imatch-Compatible-P320197.aspx

 

[Xfaxman]

Just checked the Omni Website and saw this: https://omni-mfg.com/Fifth-Wheel-Coupler-for-OMNI-Hitches-P5017413.aspx

 

[Fxfymn413]

The neck on this trailer is 2 pinch bolts, not a pin on. I have the gooseneck sleeve. Also, that conversion sleeve is heavy and I'm lazy so I think I'll try to build something with a 5th hitch on it

In that case a simple piece of pipe the same ID as the coupler's OD with a hole drilled through the side to fit a pin into the "notch" on the hitch pin would work for your purposes. Slide the pipe up onto the hitch pin, place a hitch pin through the hole to secure it and hit it. If you are concerned about it coming off use two holes and two pins; one on either side of the pin.

I am assuming you can weld and fabricate; if not you can bring your plan to a welding shop.

 

[ranger danger]

Were you able to snag that used piece off CL? It gets you like 75% of the way there. To me the thing about building something is it would be easy to build something that wasn't nice, but harder to build something nice. Easy as in, you need a 3" ID pipe or even square tube with a couple of holes drilled through it sideways for cross-pins to engage the groove in the kingpin. If you want the tongue weight to ride on your cross pins you wouldn't even need a 'wear surface' on top, although that would just be a piece of plate. You back up under the trailer, lift your 3" id hole up to the kingpin, get out and put in your crosspins.

But if you wanted something with the actual opening you could 'slide' onto the kingpin and then push/pull a single lever to latch it and actually have a nice-ish flat surface on top etc, i think you'd be a million miles ahead to buy that $75 thing and adapt it. While it would sure be nicer to have 'the real thing', i think the main thing it gets you for a tiny amount of miles of low speed use, is just not having to be as good at backing up to a trailer.

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I did not get it yet. They are regularly available. Sometimes even cheaper. I would prefer to get one that flexes side to side as well as forward and back. Its better for rough terrain.

 

[Handloader109]

That pickup looks quite rearing up because of the very heavy rear loading; no problems with directional stability of the tow?

Reared up would be heavy FRONT loading, which it is... OP said truck is level, so no issue.