Massey Ferguson or not?

   / Massey Ferguson or not? #21  
While I was pawing around on and under my new Massey Ferguson 4707, I noticed that the....

Loader was made in Sweden
Front end was made in France
Tires were made in Norway
Bucket was made in China
Hoses were made in Italy
 
   / Massey Ferguson or not?
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#23  
While I was pawing around on and under my new Massey Ferguson 4707, I noticed that the....

Loader was made in Sweden
Front end was made in France
Tires were made in Norway
Bucket was made in China
Hoses were made in Italy
(y)
 
   / Massey Ferguson or not?
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#24  
The MF 1835 is a great tractor! I strongly considered one during my last tractor purchase. I’m sure it would be a great investment for your property.

Mike
(y)
 
   / Massey Ferguson or not? #25  
LOL. I think that Kubota has more US made content than the US brands.
I didn’t think the Kubota tractors had any US made components? I believe some assembly is done in the US and Kubota works closely with Land Pride for attachments but, I thought that was about it.

I could be totally wrong though..

Mike
 
   / Massey Ferguson or not? #26  
I didn’t think the Kubota tractors had any US made components? I believe some assembly is done in the US and Kubota works closely with Land Pride for attachments but, I thought that was about it.

I could be totally wrong though..

Mike
 
   / Massey Ferguson or not? #27  
I didn’t think the Kubota tractors had any US made components? I believe some assembly is done in the US and Kubota works closely with Land Pride for attachments but, I thought that was about it.

I could be totally wrong though..

Mike
You are wrong, Rdrcr. Kubota is more "American" than any other compact tractor made today. But that doesn't mean it is all American. If you want to avoid buying a tractor than has no Chinese made parts, I am pretty sure that you won't be able to buy a tractor.
 
   / Massey Ferguson or not? #28  
I didn’t think the Kubota tractors had any US made components? I believe some assembly is done in the US and Kubota works closely with Land Pride for attachments but, I thought that was about it.

I could be totally wrong though..

Mike

I hope you are right, simply because it seems like most products are better today when they are made start to finish within a modern industrial country.

American industry was that way for many years. Now Japanese industry has followed suit. Look at the whole line up of Japanese cars, trucks, tractors, and tools. Very nice quality in every case.

Distributed manufacturing may be the way of the future - if the bugs are worked out. But for right now we have a way of manufacturing that works better.
rScotty
 
   / Massey Ferguson or not? #29  
My Massyey1742 runs like a fine Seiko watch. Cab is fabulous.
 
   / Massey Ferguson or not? #30  
People always focus on the factory jobs. But America has lost most of the high paying white collar jobs in heavy industry like engineering, accounting, tooling, and on and on. Those high paying jobs that brought in a lot of taxes for our nation are now across an ocean. USA assembly is nice, but comes at a big price.
 
   / Massey Ferguson or not? #31  
John Deeres using Chinese Motors? First I've heard of that. Was it converted?
Most small JDs use Yanmar engines. Those are top notch.
rScotty
My JD4700 in the 2000-2010 timeframe used a Yanmar engine. My family still owns it. Flawless engine. Never a problem.
 
   / Massey Ferguson or not? #32  
I think Massey was one of the first to use the world to build a tractor. Engines from England, transmissions from England, France, Brazil, maybe more, rear axles England, France, Brazil, maybe more. All was shipped to Detroit where the front end, hood and fenders were added as the engine, transmission, and rear axle was assembled. So assembled in the USA back in the 60's and 70's. Then most assembly was moved to England for the small tractors and France for the bigger tractors. The original compacts (205, 210, 220) also certain AC models were built in Japan by Toyosha (note NOT Toyota). Toyosha went up and then the new 4 digit models were built by Iseki
John Deere was using German factories before most realize.
IH I believe with the B414 started with English built tractors
I believe during the 70'5 and 80's White used Fiat (MM, Oliver, Cockshutt and AC) then later used Iseki for some of their models.
So in the end unless you go way back say 40's or 50's it is very hard to find a tractor that was manufactured and built in the USA.
Cheaper to build overseas and ship here than to build here.
 
   / Massey Ferguson or not? #33  
I think Massey was one of the first to use the world to build a tractor. Engines from England, transmissions from England, France, Brazil, maybe more, rear axles England, France, Brazil, maybe more. All was shipped to Detroit where the front end, hood and fenders were added as the engine, transmission, and rear axle was assembled. So assembled in the USA back in the 60's and 70's. Then most assembly was moved to England for the small tractors and France for the bigger tractors. The original compacts (205, 210, 220) also certain AC models were built in Japan by Toyosha (note NOT Toyota). Toyosha went up and then the new 4 digit models were built by Iseki
John Deere was using German factories before most realize.
IH I believe with the B414 started with English built tractors
I believe during the 70'5 and 80's White used Fiat (MM, Oliver, Cockshutt and AC) then later used Iseki for some of their models.
So in the end unless you go way back say 40's or 50's it is very hard to find a tractor that was manufactured and built in the USA.
Cheaper to build overseas and ship here than to build here.
You are quite right! & M-F has always been a global tractor , & more so since AGCO acquired them , My 1959 M-F 50 was made in Detroit, But has some parts from Canada , & the U.K. & my 2018 M-F 1526 is mostly Japan by Iseki & very few U.S. Components . But I have no problems with that as I knew before hand what I was buying, & my 59 M-F 50 is what sold me into buying my 2018 M-F 1526 , Both are very reliable & do the work I need them to do year in year out.
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   / Massey Ferguson or not? #34  
my 59 M-F 50 is what sold me into buying my 2018 M-F 1526
But those are two very different tractors. They have absolutely nothing in common with each other. One is a real Massey Ferguson and the other one is just an Iseki with a Massey badge on it. I don't see your logic here other then you saying you had a good experience with the brand so you're sticking with it.
 
   / Massey Ferguson or not? #35  
While I was pawing around on and under my new Massey Ferguson 4707, I noticed that the....

Loader was made in Sweden
Front end was made in France
Tires were made in Norway
Bucket was made in China
Hoses were made in Italy
If you took china off the bucket and put Germany in there it sounds like my pedigree.

Just bought my first MF...it's not a tractor though. So far no issues but it's just sitting on the trailer :ROFLMAO:
 
   / Massey Ferguson or not? #36  
I didn’t think the Kubota tractors had any US made components? I believe some assembly is done in the US and Kubota works closely with Land Pride for attachments but, I thought that was about it.

I could be totally wrong though..

Mike
A very good portion of it is built in the US, right here in GA as a mater of fact.
 
   / Massey Ferguson or not? #37  
You are wrong, Rdrcr. Kubota is more "American" than any other compact tractor made today. But that doesn't mean it is all American. If you want to avoid buying a tractor than has no Chinese made parts, I am pretty sure that you won't be able to buy a tractor.
Recently paid more for some bearings for the round baler because I thought they were made here, boy was I upset when I got the box:mad:

Was just looking for some taps and picked up an irwin box because it was "made in usa" but the only thing made here were the actual taps, all the other parts were Taiwan. SMH. Still shopping.
 
   / Massey Ferguson or not? #38  
   / Massey Ferguson or not? #39  
Hello all. First time posting on here I believe. My wife and I left our John Deere in Oregon when we left. It saw pretty much constant use on our small acreage. It was a 3203 with a front-end loader. We have since bought acreage (7.65 acres) in eastern Oklahoma and we are needing to purchase another tractor. Currently looking at an MF 1835E which to me looks like a decent tractor for the money. Several things that appeal to me are that it takes more universal attachments compared to our Deere and it's considerably less money for its size HP-wise. Not interested in breaking the bank. This will be something for us to maintain our property only. Any thoughts anyone would like to share would be appreciated. If you own one and like it, pros and cons, etc. Thanks in advance for any help you might have for me.
I bought a MF 1840e last summer. I’m glad I got the 40 hp. It has a loader and bush hog and scrape blade. It’s a very good tractor. I love mine.
 
   / Massey Ferguson or not? #40  
You are wrong, Rdrcr. Kubota is more "American" than any other compact tractor made today. But that doesn't mean it is all American. If you want to avoid buying a tractor than has no Chinese made parts, I am pretty sure that you won't be able to buy a tractor.
At least not one made in the past 50 years or so. I am pretty sure my old 1941 9N was 100% American made, but anything newer than that is anyone's guess.

The Massey looks to be a good buy. Surprised they have any in stock.
 
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