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[Sigarms]

Wake Forest tuition is about $58K per year, less room and board. That's $232K for 4 years. That's a few used dump trucks.

I don't think it's a problem for Wake students. Most drive new BMW's to school anyways Heck, the students at my boys high school drive nicer cars and trucks than I do LMAO.

FYI, Wake determines that living on or off campus, along with books and meals will run $79k a year. Unless your going into science in the private sector or "higher end" medical field, I just don't see what justifies 300k in school debt.

 

[Hay Dude]

The GI Bill invested in education and it boosted our economy. Technology is disrupting jobs and careers, and those who don't upgrade their skills accordingly will suffer. I would love to see the number if 1,2 and 4 year first generation college graduates double in the next 10 years. It would have a profound impact for generations to come.

I’d like to see the number of skilled and unskilled laborers increase so we can stop illegally importing them.
We have plenty of college grads sitting in their parents homes.

 

[Sigarms]

I’d like to see the number of skilled and unskilled laborers increase so we can stop illegally importing them.
We have plenty of college grads sitting in their parents homes.

I have some local friends who are farmers and farm for a living. Honestly, they actually appreciate the unskilled laborers.

Local McDonalds will pay you an extra $50 per work week if you show up and leave on time. Local Bojangles had help wanted sign starting out at $16 to $18 per hour and looking for help immediately.

We hired a local 20 year old from a pretty decent grandfather I talked to whose grandson was looking for work, and we needed a body to do something. Started him out at $17 an hour. First time I was working with him, he honestly asked me what I made a year. I almost fell over dead. Looked him straight in the eye and told him it was none of his ******* business. Then he starts asking me if I think he will get a raise this year (after starting off a $17 an hour) and I tell him I don't honestly know as it's not my position to determine what he gets. He then asks me how much time I think it would take him to make 100k a year. I was just looking at this 20 year old without a college degree kind of dumbfounded. He worked with us for 2 weeks, then texted the operations manager on a Tuesday night and told him he didn't think the job was working out for him and quit that night. Keep in mind, this is a white "local American born and bred" NC kid.

I will give his grandfather credit. He did apologize for his grandsons actions.

 

[MossRoad]

I don't think it's a problem for Wake students. Most drive new BMW's to school anyways Heck, the students at my boys high school drive nicer cars and trucks than I do LMAO.

FYI, Wake determines that living on or off campus, along with books and meals will run $79k a year. Unless your going into science in the private sector or "higher end" medical field, I just don't see what justifies 300k in school debt.

Here's an interesting article on Notre Dame and the median debt for graduating student is around $20k. Most high tuition schools offer financial assistance based on family income, ie. rich kids pay more out of pocket.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/university-of-notre-dame-1840/paying

 

[MossRoad]

I have some local friends who are farmers and farm for a living. Honestly, they actually appreciate the unskilled laborers.

Local McDonalds will pay you an extra $50 per work week if you show up and leave on time. Local Bojangles had help wanted sign starting out at $16 to $18 per hour and looking for help immediately.

We hired a local 20 year old from a pretty decent grandfather I talked to whose grandson was looking for work, and we needed a body to do something. Started him out at $17 an hour. First time I was working with him, he honestly asked me what I made a year. I almost fell over dead. Looked him straight in the eye and told him it was none of his ******* business. Then he starts asking me if I think he will get a raise this year (after starting off a $17 an hour) and I tell him I don't honestly know as it's not my position to determine what he gets. He then asks me how much time I think it would take him to make 100k a year. I was just looking at this 20 year old without a college degree kind of dumbfounded. He worked with us for 2 weeks, then texted the operations manager on a Tuesday night and told him he didn't think the job was working out for him and quit that night. Keep in mind, this is a white "local American born and bred" NC kid.

I will give his grandfather credit. He did apologize for his grandsons actions.

Christmas Vacation Movie Quotes:

"In seven years he couldn’t find a job?"
"Catherine says he’s been holding out for a management position."

 

[Rockbadchild]

Something isn't adding up with your friend as far as running successful business and not being able to get a loan and being "high risk".

The bigger issue is there are some great guys who know how to work in a trade and are good at and then start their own company, but the issue is they never take a business or job costing class on how to determine what you should be charging to grow your business. I know for a fact that if you own your own business in a trade, work out of your house and own all your tools and vehicles, you're running at LEAST 15% in overhead costs running that business from the get go. Insurance, fuel and administrative costs (jobs within the company that don't produce revenue) add up quicker than you realize.

his salary is not garantie… he his running in cash too much never took a loan because wasn’t able too without co-signed …i agree that’s his issue and some of the decisions he took early on still bites him now … yes in the spring he need at least 30k to be able to get going again mostly insurance cost … if he want something he wait to buy it cash but it’s getting old for him.

 

[kenmbz]

My wife and I both started in 2 year colleges to cut costs.
Many poorer children get discounts on college, which is fine with me.

But for me to pay for someone to go to med/law school just makes no sense.

I think state/local colleges and trade schools should be getting the money, not people going to expensive schools that they know are costing a few hundred thousand.

If we took that "forgiveness" money and put it into local and trade schools, they would be much more enticing for students.

We bought a house and knew how much it would cost. We signed up for college and knew how much it would cost.

Bankrupt on a house payment and life will get pretty rough.

The other day we saw a guy on line complaining he didn't know the loan would be so big, he graduated as a finance major..............

 

[MAX-24-Dean]

One of my best life lessons was my father telling me "to go to the bank to get a loan to buy some farm ground, and if the bank won't loan you the money for it, then come talk to me."
The bank wouldn't loan me the money, so I went and talked to my dad. He told me, "if the bank wouldn't loan to me, then niether would he. "Your to high of a risk". He said this with a big grin on his face. Then laughed.

 

[Sigarms]

Christmas Vacation Movie Quotes:

"In seven years he couldn’t find a job?"
"Catherine says he’s been holding out for a management position."

This is another pipe dream by the American public.

For some reason, people think that "managers" make money and do nothing. The reality is, if you have a bunch of non revenue producing people being paid a high salary, good chance sooner or later your company will go out of business.

I've been in my career path close to 30 years now, am considered "management" in the HVAC industry, and yet from time to time, because I can actually drive a straight drive truck, still perform the SAME job duties I started out with 30 years ago LMAO. What people forget is sometimes if you want something done, you have to be able to do it yourself.

My one son, age 17 still in high school, works for Panera bread. Covelli's out of Ohio (who owns the Panera franchises where my son works), lost out on a class action lawsuit because they labeled people "managers" and decided not to pay them for the work they perform.

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End of day, they want to pay 19 year olds without experience as "mangers" so they don't have to pay overtime.

Read up on my sons issues at work here on this forum. Their management is a joke IMO and I would never go there again after as a "paying customer" after learning about them. I can say that because that same son has saved up a crapload of money working for them, and I don't think he'd care if they'd let him go because he's probably the best worker they have LOL

 

[Sigarms]

One of my best life lessons was my father telling me "to go to the bank to get a loan to buy some farm ground, and if the bank won't loan you the money for it, then come talk to me."
The bank wouldn't loan me the money, so I went and talked to my dad. He told me, "if the bank wouldn't loan to me, then niether would he. "Your to high of a risk". He said this with a big grin on his face. Then laughed.

One of my best life lessons as a son was my parents telling me that if I qualify for a bank loan for a vehicle (when I was younger), to come to them. They'd give me the loan, but with no interest payments.

Although my parents were cheap and lived within their means, they did love me and would loan me money. The expectation was that I would pay them back, which I did.

We'll do the same for our kids. As well as charge them rent when they turn 18 and still want to live with us, but save the "rent money" for them when they get older and more responsible with money and give it back to them as a present.

My parents always wanted me to become a better person then they were financially. I hope the same for my own children. That's the GREAT thing about America. Both sets of my eastern European grandparents came over in the early 1900's without a pot to piss in and were poor coal miners.

My parents did better than their parents, and I'd like to think we're doing better than ours while still living within our means and saving.