Choice: food or solar fields

[Oaktree]

Florida used to produce almost all of the oranges and grapefruits for the US when I was a kid. Cali had Valencia (Juice)as majority crop but switched to Naval in the 70's.

Florida peaked around 1980 with over 200 Million boxes, and that coresponds with the population growth spurt from then til today. This year 42Million.............

Didn't Florida have a big problem in the 80s/90s with some citrus tree disease?

 

[MossRoad]

Why should others have any say in whether my "farm land" is "preserved"? ...

It was farmers that got the laws passed in the first place.

 

[fishdrivel]

Sure they started it, but they continued it thru out the decades, don't be blaming some fish for our taking all the water. Even if there was nothing getting back to the Pacific, those farmers would be in trouble.

Simply not true.
There is enough water in the delta to water all the cropland we have.
It's the pumps used on the South Delta that kills the little fishy's

 

[fishdrivel]

I parked in a parking garage for well over 20 years. The amount of damage, scraped paint, etc. on the concrete walls tells me that people parking under solar panels would cause excessive damage to the supports. You'd have to build them on pretty stout concrete supports. You'd also have to beef up roofing of most existing structures to handle the added load. Not just the weight of the panels and supports, but it would add a potentially huge wind load. I'd guess that the areas directly below the solar panels on flat roofs would see heavy water loads from rain as well. Rain is spread out on a flat roof. Put solar panel up there and the rain is no longer spread out, it's concentrated, just like where it comes off of your house roof if there's no gutter. All that has to be figured into an installation on an existing structure. New construction would be easier to deal with.

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[PuffyC]

People can do with their land whatever they please. That's been the going theme here on TBN for decades. Now that the land isn't being used for something one doesn't approve of, they want to have a say in it.

It's not just land where people can't reconcile their beliefs.

Pollution and death from harvesting and burning petroleum? Who cares.
Somebody opens a lithium mine? Then it's "Won't someone think of the environment!?!"
Somebody wants to build a windmill? It's "Won't someone think of those poor birds!?!"

or

Long term, truly massive gov't subsidies for oil and gas production? Who cares.
A relatively small, short term subsidy for an electric vehicle? "The gov't shouldn't pick winners and losers, that's wrong!"

It goes on and on.

 

[Jstpssng]

But large scale solar farms are kind of ugly, and if you live to the south or southwest of it I'm sure the reflected glare can be quite annoying at certain times of day.
Dunno how it is where you live, but in much of the country $300 grand doesn't buy anything special for a house anymore.



Not just subdivisions, most jurisdictions have some sort of land-use ordinance. Even my small town has one, though most of it just deals with property line setbacks, minimum lot size, etc.

Every town here is subject to shoreland zoning. If they don't pass their own laws, they are still subject to the minimum state standards.

 

[cqaigy2]

Simply not true.
There is enough water in the delta to water all the cropland we have.
It's the pumps used on the South Delta that kills the little fishy's

Well all i can say is wishful thinking doesn't make it so.

 

[4570Man]

What I find interesting is the adamant feelings by most that a person should be allowed to do with their own land what they want to do, without government interference. Yet when said person (usually farmers) leases their land to solar or wind projects, the same people are outraged, and want government to stop it.

You can't have it both ways, folks.

If someone wants to spend their own money they can cover a billion acres in solar panels for all I care. But most of this green feel good garbage that’s not actually green is tax payer subsidized.

 

[Jstpssng]

"Food or Fuel"... that's how I felt yesterday when filling my diesel cans.

 

[Hay Dude]

Kalifornia is due to have rolling blackouts for up to 10% of it’s population due to charging of the surge of EV’s and closing of fossil fuel & nuke plants.

So let me get this straight, you randomly live in the dark and have no electricity? Isn’t that what 3rd world nations do?

Beautiful place, but sure glad I don’t have to live there.…