E-15 fuel in your area?

[jjeff]

That's kind of misleading.

E100 (pure ethanol) has about 76,000 BTU per gallon.
Pure gasoline has about 114,000 BTU per gallon.
E10 (10% ethanol 90% gasoline) has about 111,800 BTU per gallon.

111,800 is 98.07% of 114,000.

Less than 2% difference in BTU.

I've been running E10 87 octane since the mid 80's in everything I own until a recent chainsaw purchase requires 89. Two stroke, four stroke, doesn't matter. I've never had any problems that can be traced to ethanol. Why? Because I either run the machines often enough to turn the fuel over regularly, or, I follow the manufacturer's recommendations for long term storage.

I'd guess 99% of problems that people think are caused by ethanol are actually caused by poor maintenance practices.

Put another way, if your car gets 30mpg on pure gasoline, it will get 29.4mpg on E10.

Maybe you should experiment on a few tanks of gas? mine don't that I know for a fact even with todays cars, however the cost benefit of buying ethanol free vs pure gas is not there unless it's for small engines only to keep them somewhat reliable, and help prevent costly repairs. Yes, I think I maintain my stuff better than most and most is old and used up.

 

[jjeff]

Just last week I tested the gas I got at my local station, no corn products thankfully, only gas. Here's hoping it never shows up.
Stupid question, if all the stations in a particular area only sell regular E85, does that mean you've got to run hi test in everything that's not E85 approved?, that'll go over like a lead brick, more $$$$............Mike

They can't only sell E85 at this time I believe.

 

[sea2summit]

That's kind of misleading.

E100 (pure ethanol) has about 76,000 BTU per gallon.
Pure gasoline has about 114,000 BTU per gallon.
E10 (10% ethanol 90% gasoline) has about 111,800 BTU per gallon.

111,800 is 98.07% of 114,000.

Less than 2% difference in BTU.

Sounds like we should all switch to diesel…

 

[sea2summit]

I've been running E10 87 octane since the mid 80's in everything I own until a recent chainsaw purchase requires 89. Two stroke, four stroke, doesn't matter. I've never had any problems that can be traced to ethanol. Why? Because I either run the machines often enough to turn the fuel over regularly, or, I follow the manufacturer's recommendations for long term storage.

I'd guess 99% of problems that people think are caused by ethanol are actually caused by poor maintenance practices.

This is false because a lot of plastics and rubber components were never designed to be compatible, there was a transition period and items (mostly small engines, can’t think of a automobile engine) had to be upgraded to compatible components. Not much room for debate on that one

 

[sea2summit]

Just last week I tested the gas I got at my local station, no corn products thankfully, only gas. Here's hoping it never shows up.
Stupid question, if all the stations in a particular area only sell regular E85, does that mean you've got to run hi test in everything that's not E85 approved?, that'll go over like a lead brick, more $$$$............Mike

It said non-ethanol? If it didn’t, there is ethanol in there.

 

[jjeff]

The NMMA has been fighting E15 mandates forever or it seems like. They don't have much financial benefit by doing this unless they just want to protect consumers manufacturers.

 

[sea2summit]

The NMMA has been fighting E15 mandates forever or it seems like. They don't have much financial benefit by doing this unless they just want to protect consumers manufacturers.

I’m not sure what price fuel would have to reach to make it cost effective to use ethanol. I do know it uses a lot of land, a lot of fertilizer, a lot of machines, and a lot of FUEL to produce so with the cost of all those inputs rising…I’m not a huge fan.

 

[mrmikey]

It said non-ethanol? If it didn’t, there is ethanol in there.

Nope, none I actually tested it with a test vial and water.....M

 

[jjeff]

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[MossRoad]

Just last week I tested the gas I got at my local station, no corn products thankfully, only gas. Here's hoping it never shows up.
Stupid question, if all the stations in a particular area only sell regular E85, does that mean you've got to run hi test in everything that's not E85 approved?, that'll go over like a lead brick, more $$$$............Mike

I've never seen a station that only sells E85.