Trying to contact RonMar

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angelugs

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Jinma 284
I've tried to message member RonMar about a post concerning a mod for the in sump hydraulic filter on a 200 series Jinma tractor. Does anyone know if Ron is still around or if they know him well enough to contact him? I've left him a message to contact me. Thanks for any assistance.
 
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How old was the post?
Which Forum was it in?

RonMar doesn't show up as a member:

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Thanks for your reply. The post I mentioned was in the "Chinese Tractors" forum. Ron was/is classified as an "Elite" member, joined in 2005. He lived in Port Angeles, WA.
 
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I've changed that screen filter on our FarmPro 2420. It was torn in the tractor. The one i put in was ok but the dealer I got it from said that out of 4 he would receive at least 2 would be bad out of the box. That screen is really fragile and in farm equipment seems like a stupid idea. Luckily ours never gave a problem with the hydraulics in the 15 or so years we owned it.
 
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I've changed that screen filter on our FarmPro 2420. It was torn in the tractor. The one i put in was ok but the dealer I got it from said that out of 4 he would receive at least 2 would be bad out of the box. That screen is really fragile and in farm equipment seems like a stupid idea. Luckily ours never gave a problem with the hydraulics in the 15 or so years we owned it.
Thanks for your reply. I've got a Jinma 284 which I think is basically the same tractor. Mine is 17 yrs. old but less than 100 hrs. I only use it to clear my lanes so it sets in the shed most of the time. Just now checking the hydraulic oil filter in the sump and, like you, found holes in the filter. At $60.00 a whack I thought I'd look for a mod or even purchasing a piece of 100 micron screen and repair the old one. The member I'm trying to contact posted a mod using an aftermarket filter that costs less than $10.00 plus shipping. I'm all about saving $30.00 or more but I need to talk with him about how he modified the old filter unit.
 
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What you have to be careful of is that you don't get too restrictive on the filter arrangement. I just got the OEM one and it was fine.
 
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I hear what your saying. The member who posted the mod has the same tractor as I have and had been using the mod for sometime. I feel confident he knows what he's talking about. On another note, you didn't by any chance purchase your OEM filter from a vendor named Asian Parts did you? Their pricing is considerably less than anyone else but you do have a longer wait for shipping.
 
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Ron and I were doing the same thing at the time. I don't remember if we used the same screen, but this is what I used.

Thanks for the reply. According to Ron's post he was using a different strainer from the same supplier. The reason I'm trying to reach him is he stated he cut the OEM strainer off the tube and welded a 90 degree elbow, then a threaded fitting to accept the new strainer and had it laying horizontal in the bottom of the sump. The problem I'm seeing is the aftermarket strainer is 8 in. in length and I don't see it fitting horizontally in the sump. Does that sound right to you? Just checked "surplus center" and they no longer have the strainer that Ron used so now I'm looking at your setup. Did you use this in a Jinma 284 pre 2006 tractor? I don't recall you having a Jinma.
 
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Thanks for the reply. According to Ron's post he was using a different strainer from the same supplier. The reason I'm trying to reach him is he stated he cut the OEM strainer off the tube and welded a 90 degree elbow, then a threaded fitting to accept the new strainer and had it laying horizontal in the bottom of the sump. The problem I'm seeing is the aftermarket strainer is 8 in. in length and I don't see it fitting horizontally in the sump. Does that sound right to you? Just checked "surplus center" and they no longer have the strainer that Ron used so now I'm looking at your setup. Did you use this in a Jinma 284 pre 2006 tractor? I don't recall you having a Jinma.
I don't have a Jinma, I have a Yuchai bulldozer. The same nylon suction strainer was used in both applications. My installation was more straightforward because the strainer goes directly into the side of the reservoir at the bottom.
There are all different sizes and configurations of suction strainers, you can find something that will work. Try hydraulic shops, Grainger, McMaster-Carr, etc. If you have the capability, you can install an in-line spin-on suction filter.
 
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I don't have a Jinma, I have a Yuchai bulldozer. The same nylon suction strainer was used in both applications. My installation was more straightforward because the strainer goes directly into the side of the reservoir at the bottom.
There are all different sizes and configurations of suction strainers, you can find something that will work. Try hydraulic shops, Grainger, McMaster-Carr, etc. If you have the capability, you can install an in-line spin-on suction filter.
 
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Thanks for the reply. I saw where you had a conversation with another member about converting to a spin on filter setup but I'm not as young and as adventurous as I used to be. Also was concerned about the loss of some ground clearance if you mounted the strainer below the floor board. Is there any reason to set the strainer in the sump horizonally rather than vertically? Only advantage I can see is the hydraulic fluid level could get lower without starving the pump if the strainer was mounted horizonally at the bottom.
 
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It doesn't matter where or how the strainer is mounted as long as it's highest point is submersed in oil by at least four inches minimum in total. Also, a spin-on filter may be mounted horizontally.
 
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It doesn't matter where or how the strainer is mounted as long as it's highest point is submersed in oil by at least four inches minimum in total. Also, a spin-on filter may be mounted horizontally.
That helps me make a decision. I now understand why Ron had to go horizontal with the 8 in. long filter he used since the sump on the tractor is only about 5 in. deep. I'll find an aftermarket filter that will work. You never said anything about Ron. Do you know if he's still around? He was a great source of info on this site. Thanks for all your help. You too are a great source of info here.
 
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That helps me make a decision. I now understand why Ron had to go horizontal with the 8 in. long filter he used since the sump on the tractor is only about 5 in. deep. I'll find an aftermarket filter that will work. You never said anything about Ron. Do you know if he's still around? He was a great source of info on this site. Thanks for all your help. You too are a great source of info here.
Never met Ron, although we were "friends" in this forum I didn't know much about him. He was always very cordial, and very knowledgeable about Jinmas and their individual components. I think he may have been a retired engineer. He lives about 40 miles from me in Port Angeles, WA. Don't know of anyone in the forum that has met him personally. Hope he is ok.
 
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The metal screen in my 2006 Jinma 284 was very fragile and I tore a hole in it the first time I tried to clean it. Desperate for something to use I found a paper filter that I could rig up to fit the suction pipe from the original screen. It had way more surface area than the screen but it was so much finer it actually restricted flow. Worked pretty good in the summer but when the fluid got cold it really stressed the pump until I could get it warmed up properly.
Eventually I went back to the OEM screen. Someday I may look into re-plumbing the rear facing Hydraulic ports so that I can tap fluid off the bottom of the sump on the right side and run it though a spin on arraignment of some sort. It will mean messing with fittings, hoses and adapters until I get what I want. There always seems to be something more pressing that needs to be done.
Since the right side rocker shaft seal decided to start leaking this summer, I may get into the hydraulics sooner than I thought....
 
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The metal screen in my 2006 Jinma 284 was very fragile and I tore a hole in it the first time I tried to clean it. Desperate for something to use I found a paper filter that I could rig up to fit the suction pipe from the original screen. It had way more surface area than the screen but it was so much finer it actually restricted flow. Worked pretty good in the summer but when the fluid got cold it really stressed the pump until I could get it warmed up properly.
Eventually I went back to the OEM screen. Someday I may look into re-plumbing the rear facing Hydraulic ports so that I can tap fluid off the bottom of the sump on the right side and run it though a spin on arraignment of some sort. It will mean messing with fittings, hoses and adapters until I get what I want. There always seems to be something more pressing that needs to be done.
Since the right side rocker shaft seal decided to start leaking this summer, I may get into the hydraulics sooner than I thought.


The metal screen in my 2006 Jinma 284 was very fragile and I tore a hole in it the first time I tried to clean it. Desperate for something to use I found a paper filter that I could rig up to fit the suction pipe from the original screen. It had way more surface area than the screen but it was so much finer it actually restricted flow. Worked pretty good in the summer but when the fluid got cold it really stressed the pump until I could get it warmed up properly.
Eventually I went back to the OEM screen. Someday I may look into re-plumbing the rear facing Hydraulic ports so that I can tap fluid off the bottom of the sump on the right side and run it though a spin on arraignment of some sort. It will mean messing with fittings, hoses and adapters until I get what I want. There always seems to be something more pressing that needs to be done.
Since the right side rocker shaft seal decided to start leaking this summer, I may get into the hydraulics sooner than I thought....
I haven't finished replacing the hydraulic filter on my 2005 Jinma 284 yet BUT I did discover something that should reduce the cost. On my assembly I was able to remove the filter element only and purchase just that part. It looked like some kind of glue was used to attache the top cap to the tube. Just break that seal, remove the bolt on the lower cap and remove the old element. I haven't purchased an aftermarket element yet but don't think I'll have a problem finding one that will fit. The specs. for the element are: 100 mesh, height - 3 in. (it could go to 3 1/4 in.), diameter - 2 7/16" (this allows you to use the OEM top and bottom caps). After reassembly the unit should measure between 5 3/4 in. - 6 in. from the botton of the mounting flange to the bottom of the unit. Once I find an element to fit I'll edit this post.
 
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Yup, that is what I did, except I couldn't find anything local that had a screen so used the paper filter element instead.
 
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He has not been on the forum for 2 years:

 

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