Infested with UTVs?

   / Infested with UTVs? #1  

Liquidsilver

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I don't want to tick anybody off, but is anybody else a little tired of the side-by-sides and UTVs crowding into the formerly quiet woods and small county roads?

I'm not talking about a guy working with his UTV to carry fence posts or animal feeds... I'm talking about all the wanna be rally drivers blasting around on them like, well... closed course rally car events. We used to never see people around our quiet woods, and now sometimes day and sometimes night, it sounds like a racetrack. There have been two separate helicopter ambulance evacs, too. I'm not opposed to racetracks, but those aren't public roads. When my wife and kids and grandkids are driving down the road, and tell me repeatedly they almost got hit... I'm just getting tired of it and hoping this fad wears out.

I guess there's nothing I can do, so I guess I just wasted your time venting. Sorry. I like my dirtbikes and ATVs, but I ride them on my own place and they're not loud.
 
   / Infested with UTVs? #2  
I see a couple of guys riding their UTVs on the state road here which has a 55 mph posted speed limit. A lot of car drivers drive over the speed limit. I personally wouldn't want to be riding in a UTV that travels maybe 20-30 mph slower than normal traffic. No idea what protection a UTV offers in a crash with a car or pickup truck. Can't be that much.
 
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I have to agree with you. Their popularity (despite the high prices) is staggering. And unfortunately all too often they are being bought (and driven) by total idiots who could care less about the outdoors, the environment, or how they affect other people. I see them everywhere in the back country now. Out west here, they are tearing up roads and trails with the speeds they travel, leaving deep ruts in road surfaces. It's gotten so bad that some areas are banning them altogether.

I have a Can-am Defender, and when I go out for a full day of riding I may put 20 - 40 miles on the odometer, just putting along and enjoying the scenery. Just because the machine is capable of doing 60 mph across rough terrain doesn't mean that's how fast you must ride. If you want to race, find a race track. The way things are going, around here at least, is that these idiots are going to get their machines banned so the only place we'll be able to ride is in an off-road park.
 
   / Infested with UTVs? #4  
I see a couple of guys riding their UTVs on the state road here which has a 55 mph posted speed limit. A lot of car drivers drive over the speed limit. I personally wouldn't want to be riding in a UTV that travels maybe 20-30 mph slower than normal traffic. No idea what protection a UTV offers in a crash with a car or pickup truck. Can't be that much.
Depends on the UTV. The Can-am Mavericks, the Polaris RZRs, and others are easily capable of running well over the speed limit. Just watched a video some guy posted on YouTube running his Maverick across the desert at 77 mph.
 
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Missouri legislature did this to us. Started out several years ago with ATVs. You could drive it on a public road if you were using it for Agricultural purposes. Then, in my recollection towns started allowing them for the same purposes. UTVs came along and the rules got more relaxed.

Now, here in NW Missouri, you can ride them anywhere, anytime. Doesn't even require a registration or any type of permit.

I've Jeeped in the Colorado mountains for 40 years. All of the popular areas are flooded with ATV/UTVs now. You have to get away from the popular areas to get any peace.

I have a LOT of farmer friends/neighbors that use their UTVs daily for the original intent, choring. They all respect and obey traffic laws. And around here, it's easy to tell the business UTVs from the recreational UTVs.

Not sure where this is headed.
 
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If they are causing a problem talk to somebody about it. Every state has different laws but generally access to public roads is contingent on not having problems. They also generally have speed limits to follow, if that isn't happening contact the applicable law enforcement.

Results may vary depending on state.

Edit; Here are the laws for Missouri...

304.013. All-terrain vehicles, prohibited on highways, rivers or streams of this state, exceptions, operational requirements — special permits — prohibited uses — penalty. — 1. No person shall operate an all-terrain vehicle, as defined in section 301.010, upon the highways of this state, except as follows:

(1) All-terrain vehicles owned and operated by a governmental entity for official use;

(2) All-terrain vehicles operated for agricultural purposes or industrial on-premises purposes between the official sunrise and sunset on the day of operation;

(3) All-terrain vehicles operated by handicapped persons for short distances occasionally only on the state's secondary roads when operated between the hours of sunrise and sunset;

(4) Governing bodies of cities may issue special permits to licensed drivers for special uses of all-terrain vehicles on highways within the city limits. Fees of fifteen dollars may be collected and retained by cities for such permits;

(5) Governing bodies of counties may issue special permits to licensed drivers for special uses of all-terrain vehicles on county roads within the county. Fees of fifteen dollars may be collected and retained by the counties for such permits;

(6) Municipalities may by resolution or ordinance allow all-terrain vehicle operation on streets or highways under the governing body's jurisdiction. Any person operating an all-terrain vehicle pursuant to a municipal resolution or ordinance shall maintain proof of financial responsibility in accordance with section 303.160 or maintain any other insurance policy providing equivalent liability coverage for an all-terrain vehicle.

2. No person shall operate an off-road vehicle within any stream or river in this state, except that off-road vehicles may be operated within waterways which flow within the boundaries of land which an off-road vehicle operator owns, or for agricultural purposes within the boundaries of land which an off-road vehicle operator owns or has permission to be upon, or for the purpose of fording such stream or river of this state at such road crossings as are customary or part of the highway system. All law enforcement officials or peace officers of this state and its political subdivisions or department of conservation agents or department of natural resources park rangers shall enforce the provisions of this subsection within the geographic area of their jurisdiction.

3. A person operating an all-terrain vehicle on a highway pursuant to an exception covered in this section shall have a valid operator's or chauffeur's license, except that a handicapped person operating such vehicle pursuant to subdivision (3) of subsection 1 of this section, but shall not be required to have passed an examination for the operation of a motorcycle, and the vehicle shall be operated at speeds of less than thirty miles per hour. When operated on a highway, an all-terrain vehicle shall have a bicycle safety flag, which extends not less than seven feet above the ground, attached to the rear of the vehicle. The bicycle safety flag shall be triangular in shape with an area of not less than thirty square inches and shall be day-glow in color.

4. No persons shall operate an all-terrain vehicle:

(1) In any careless way so as to endanger the person or property of another;

(2) While under the influence of alcohol or any controlled substance;

(3) Without a securely fastened safety helmet on the head of an individual who operates an all-terrain vehicle or who is being towed or otherwise propelled by an all-terrain vehicle, unless the individual is at least eighteen years of age.

5. No operator of an all-terrain vehicle shall carry a passenger, except for agricultural purposes. The provisions of this subsection shall not apply to any all-terrain vehicle in which the seat of such vehicle is designed to carry more than one person.
 
   / Infested with UTVs? #8  
In our area we have to deal with them every weekend. There is an area about 6 miles up the road that is for motor bikes. They ride down the road doing wheeles day and night. The UTV's also drive on the road but they have so many lights on them you are blinded by them. And they are almost always in a group of 3-10 of them. The local power co. put up steal poles with 3/4" cable all along the power line to stop the UTV's from destroying things.
We have tried to get the police to just come and sit out here but they would rather be else were.

We use to have an officer that would sit on the logging roads and pull them over all the time. But haven't seen him for several years.

I'm like the rest of you, I don't mind the local ranchers as they obey the law and are trying to get there wore done.
 
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One thing you can do is once you have identify a pattern of the busiest day(s) or if there is a busy day where people are actively driving recklessly call the cops... once a few get cough they will get the message...

Personally I don't have much problem with driving fast but slow down once you meet people and slow down for the corners and most importantly stay on your side of the road. It wouldn't be so bad if people wound use stock exhaust as well.
 
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Public roads are public. Who owns the woods you are talking about?
 
   / Infested with UTVs? #11  
Waiting for the day when one crests the hill and realize we are on the other side taking up the entire road with ag equipment. Won't be pretty. It is bad and will only get worse.
 
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Exactly its public so roads laws should be followed.
In my area UTV's are now allowed on county roads. You have to be plated, carry a valid drivers license, have your vehicle insured, wear a helmet, and drive under 60 kph.

What road laws aren't being followed? Complain to the cops, let them do their jobs.

The only UTV driving in my back woods is me. Trespassers are not welcome. Especially the ah*les thinking it's ok to cut my fences to ride their horses through my property.

I have more issues and complaints about crazy horse people riding their pet horses around crapping on roads and feeling entitled to trespassing and removing fences.
 
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No idea what protection a UTV offers in a crash with a car or pickup truck. Can't be that much.
More than a motorcycle
Waiting for the day when one crests the hill and realize we are on the other side taking up the entire road with ag equipment. Won't be pretty. It is bad and will only get worse.
How would that be any different than someone cresting a hill in a car, or on a motorcycle
 
   / Infested with UTVs? #15  
There are good and bad in every crowd.

If they are following other traffic laws I dont see the big deal?

Are they noisier than a car....sure most are. But they arent louder than a harley running down the road. Or someones hotrod.

Whats good for the goose is good for the gander. If a farmer is allowed to run a UTV up and down the road to do "chores".....Why cant anyone? As long as they stay on their side of the road, dont impede traffic, and do it in a respectful manner?
 
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I'm just tired of picking up all the UTV body parts in the woods when they think their ride will fit down an ATV or motorcycle trail. That and moving the trees and crap they piled into the trail trying to get their rig out where they got it stuck in between the trees.
Riding down the county roads is fine but the citidots think they are off roading and we want big gravel berms from donuts in the road.
 
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In my area UTV's are now allowed on county roads. You have to be plated, carry a valid drivers license, have your vehicle insured, wear a helmet, and drive under 60 kph.

What road laws aren't being followed? Complain to the cops, let them do their jobs.

The only UTV driving in my back woods is me. Trespassers are not welcome. Especially the ah*les thinking it's ok to cut my fences to ride their horses through my property.

I have more issues and complaints about crazy horse people riding their pet horses around crapping on roads and feeling entitled to trespassing and removing fences.
I agree I don't have problem with ATV or UTV or side by side on the road but if they are driving like if its a racetrack they are not following the laws!

from OPS statement

''I'm talking about all the wanna be rally drivers blasting around on them like, well... closed course rally car events. We used to never see people around our quiet woods, and now sometimes day and sometimes night, it sounds like a racetrack. There have been two separate helicopter ambulance evacs, too. I'm not opposed to racetracks, but those aren't public roads. When my wife and kids and grandkids are driving down the road, and tell me repeatedly they almost got hit... ''
 
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There are good and bad in every crowd.

If they are following other traffic laws I dont see the big deal?

Are they noisier than a car....sure most are. But they arent louder than a harley running down the road. Or someones hotrod.

Whats good for the goose is good for the gander. If a farmer is allowed to run a UTV up and down the road to do "chores".....Why cant anyone? As long as they stay on their side of the road, dont impede traffic, and do it in a respectful manner?
Yes but it sound like it's not the case.
 
   / Infested with UTVs? #19  
Every nice weekend, we have a group of Harley Riders on the highway. Not a fan of the noise.

A lawyer I know had one. He rode from Middle TN to Knoxville. Took a spill. Never knew why and woke up in the hospital in Knoxville. Another friend lost her son when he crashed due to some gravel spilled on the highway.

Although I don't think UTV accidents are as frequent, a friend's brother was killed riding one on the highway last year or the year before.
 
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Here is WV we can make our UTVs/ATVs street legal and can ride most places on the road (no highways), and if you don't plate them you can only ride on any unlined road. Mostly around me, they are used as transportation between houses to visit or head to trail rides. We have a lot of kids on quads that run about but I can honestly say they obey the local laws and are not doing anything stupid. Just getting around or enjoying a ride on their ATV/SxS.

Now if you go down by the Hatfield McCoy trails I hate to say it is a different story. Many adults think their new Can-Am/RZR/Talon/Etc turbo should be run at 75+mph down the local country roads and trails. We see a lot of crashes down by the trails and 90% are alcohol or speed related. Mostly out of state people have no idea how narrow WV roads are, no clue ATV tires dont hold the road like a low slung car, or how if you get off the road you maybe going over the edge of a mountain to your death. Plus they are here for vacation so they don't ride all that often and then add alcohol, and it is a recipe for disaster.

Really a shame because it gives UTV/ATVs/Etc a bad name and does tick off the locals.
 

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