I love electric vehicles. But increasingly I feel duped

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   / I love electric vehicles. But increasingly I feel duped #51  
I and the wife like nice, but cheap cars.
We both expect to be able to get in and go 200 to 600 miles in a day - once in a awhile. So far that has ruled out cheap E-cars.(same for the truck - maybe 20 mile trips 99% of the time - then 200 or even 1500 miles in 2 days to go get something.) Our use case has not lead to E-cars.

But I could see - and it's not my idea - a drop down guide/contact just like old slot cars. Almost any 100 + trip involves Interstate anyway, why not have all of them paved with load bearing 'cells? Any sunny day is a good day to travel!
 
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one cargo ship emit the same pollution as 50 million cars … 20 cargo ship creat more pollutions as all the cars on the planet … there is 60 000 cargo ship around the planet… but yet the problem are the cars …
Nope, the tractors are the problem! :rolleyes:
 
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Mankind has shown that we reset every so often. Wiping out masses of people at the time it occurs. We are overdue for one of those events and when that happens everything changes. Including how we do things. My personal belief is that flying through air in the current airplane method where air suspends the craft is outdated technology. What is coming is anti gravitational technology which will allow us to "fly" much the same as our dreams of alien saucers and UFO's today that we don't see but in our dreams (and by air force pilots lol). The time is coming and things like superconductors and advanced quantum computing along with nuclear fusion will see those anti magnetic dreams become reality. It'll be a Elon Musk type that drives that to occur. His type of personality that works 20hours a day will drive it to fruition.
 
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I use to always recycle the oil from my vehicles. And often wondered what happened to that stuff once dropped off at the recycling center. I imagined it would be refined again in some way to a retail product. Thirty years ago, I asked a friend, who was also knowledgeable about large ships, and what he thought happened to used engine oil. He told me, that it was used as bunker oil to power freighter ships. Of course this is thirty years ago, and he said, they don't really refine it again, they just strain it for metal bits. These large two stroke diesel engines have pistons the size of a coffee table. They can run off of anything that combusts under pressure. And they only run at 70 to 100 RPM. "Are they clean burning?" I asked him. He just laughed at me and said, "(expletive) No! Crews routinely get asphyxiated. You just don't hear about it." As stated, this is what I heard from someone that would have known things about large seagoing ships and bunker oil thirty years ago. I don't recycle old engine oil any more, I use it to lube chainsaw bars. :)
 
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one cargo ship emit the same amount of pollution as 50 million cars … 20 cargo ship creat more pollutions as all the cars on the planet … there are 60 000 cargo ship around the planet… but yet the problem are the cars …
If someone need to fact check me,

''according to a report by the International Council on Clean Transportation (ICCT), the top 15 largest ships emit more sulfur oxides (SOx) than all the world's cars combined. Additionally, a single large container ship can emit as much diesel pollution as 50 million cars.''
 
   / I love electric vehicles. But increasingly I feel duped #59  
I use to always recycle the oil from my vehicles. And often wondered what happened to that stuff once dropped off at the recycling center. I imagined it would be refined again in some way to a retail product. Thirty years ago, I asked a friend, who was also knowledgeable about large ships, and what he thought happened to used engine oil. He told me, that it was used as bunker oil to power freighter ships. Of course this is thirty years ago, and he said, they don't really refine it again, they just strain it for metal bits. These large two stroke diesel engines have pistons the size of a coffee table. They can run off of anything that combusts under pressure. And they only run at 70 to 100 RPM. "Are they clean burning?" I asked him. He just laughed at me and said, "(expletive) No! Crews routinely get asphyxiated. You just don't hear about it." As stated, this is what I heard from someone that would have known things about large seagoing ships and bunker oil thirty years ago. I don't recycle old engine oil any more, I use it to lube chainsaw bars. :)
I'm a big believer in recycling whatever I can. Never really got a straight answer from any of the autoparts stores/garages that accept used oil as to what's done with it. I do know of a couple people who have waste oil burners to heat their shops, I bet that's where a lot of it goes. Hate to think of the air quality issues it causes though.

As far as re-using it as bar oil...uh, no. Tried that once and never again. Do you have some sort of filter you run it thru first? All the suspended gunk in the oil just clogged up the passages in my saw. Real PITA to clean it out.
I'll use some to start a bonfire or something, but other than that I just drop it off at O'Reillys.
 
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Was talking to my friend who is my Ford salesman the other day. He said they are having lots of problems with those electric F150's and in his words..."the technicians can't even fix all the electronics problems in the gas and diesel vehicles, they are really lost on those electric ones."
Good point. My biggest concern when buying a new tractor last year was the reliability of the electronics in it. Every tractor that I own has had electrical issues. It's my biggest issue.

On my 2003 Century tractor, I removed every single wire, then just ran the bare minimum that I need for it to run. Since doing that, it's been utterly reliable. It starts every time, quickly and easily. I did the same thing to my 2010 Scag zero turn. Same results. Removing every wire and just installing what I needed has solved all my issues.

I just hope I never get to that point with my 2022 Massey 4707 tractor!!!!

My 2012 F150 wouldn't start after getting gas, so I called my buddy who owns an auto repair shop. He sent a tow truck, and had one of his guys stay late to fix it. Turned out to be an issue in how Ford wired one of the relays to the starter and the alternator. They ran a new wire, bypassing something, and then adding another fuse to it. Apparently, this is a common electrical issue with F150's.

How does a company as big as Ford have common electrical issues with a vehicle that they sell millions of?

What happens if you have an Electric Vehicle and it doesn't work? Who fixes it? What does it cost to have it fixed? I've ready a few stories with crazy ten figure numbers for repairs.
 
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