Towing 10.1K with either Toyota Tundra SR5 OR F150 which is better?

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I've a 10.1K enclosed trailer I plan on towing for years. My 2002 F350 CC dually is getting long, both physically (22.2') and "in the tooth" (seats are aging, needs paintwork, etc.) and SWMBO has signed off getting a new vehicle.
Critical parameters to me (other than a good running truck) are a tighter turning diameter/radius (currently about 60') and tow capacity of 10.1K.
We are partial to Ford (only dealership that is "local") and our eldest recommended looking for a Tundra SR5.
So any recommendations?
 
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If you want half ton pickup I would go Ford with 3.5 Ecoboost and max tow package. I can tow my 18’ with 6’6” sides enclosed trailer no problem. I get about 23MPG just the truck and about 10MPG with the trailer. I have had several with the Ecoboost and have been very pleased.
 
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I've a 10.1K enclosed trailer I plan on towing for years. My 2002 F350 CC dually is getting long, both physically (22.2') and "in the tooth" (seats are aging, needs paintwork, etc.) and SWMBO has signed off getting a new vehicle.
Critical parameters to me (other than a good running truck) are a tighter turning diameter/radius (currently about 60') and tow capacity of 10.1K.
We are partial to Ford (only dealership that is "local") and our eldest recommended looking for a Tundra SR5.
So any recommendations?

I'd paint this and put new seats in it if the frame and body are good :)

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I did go from a 7.3 SuperDuty to an early model 3.5 ecoboost and I am happy with it towing. I tow bumper pull and I've had zero stability issues and have more power with the ecoboost. Ride is way better, my body thanks me every time I drive.

Both are similar wheel base (157 versus 156) and the F150 turns way tighter and is actually driveable in a tight parking lot.

Current model 3.5 ecoboost max tows are around 13K towing.
 
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We bought a 2023 RAM 1500 V6 for the wife. Nicest riding truck I ever drove.
Pulls pretty good and decent mileage.
 
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Comments like this show why I don't take much of this seriously.
Lol, especially since a larger percentage of the Tundra and its parts are built in the USA than the big 3.
David from jax
 
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What ever you get make sure it has the payload you need. You might be looking at hitch weight of over 1000 pounds, maybe as much as 1500 pounds. Thats at the upper limits of a half ton I’m my opinion but it is possible.
 
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I use a 2014 F150 Ecoboost for loads under around 8,700 pounds. It does fine, just get hit with a MPG drop. Truck is rated for 10,500 hitch pull (with weight distributing hitch).

Can't say if it would do okay at higher trailer weight because I cheat and use my F250 of the heavier stuff.
What I will say is, I much prefer the 150 for maneuvering over the Beast (4 door long bed F250).
 
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The Toyota is a good solid truck that should stay a good solid truck for a long time to come.

By the way, ignore the made-in-the-USA stuff. Toyota makes the Tunda in Texas.

 
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10k is too much weight behind a half ton for any sort of frequency.

A 6,000lb boat behind a 2020 F150 Crew Cab V8 4x4 was a white knuckle ride when traffic slows suddenly on the highway, just not enough weight and stability. Plenty of power, trans would shift about every 7 seconds (10 spd) you get used to manually mode to prevent that.

16’ enclosed (7k gross) in a heavy cross wind is unnerving with an empty bed on the truck. Trailer is in control.
 
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Owned a tractor company for several years and towed 40hp tractors and equipment, large trailer loads of equipment and did it all with a Toyota T100 V6 and she is still rolling today at 215K with no problems....
 
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You don’t say how far or what sort of terrain you’re driving but when I went through this a few years ago I ended up with a made in Mexico Ram 3500 with a German 6sp manual transmission. At the time we had a 2 horse tag along and a 5 ton equipment trailer. The Toyota would have needed a weight transfer hitch. I hate weight transfer hitches. Got the truck and the the wife then wanted a two horse gooseneck with a tack room. Truck earns its keep.
 
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You don’t say how far or what sort of terrain you’re driving but when I went through this a few years ago I ended up with a made in Mexico Ram 3500 with a German 6sp manual transmission. At the time we had a 2 horse tag along and a 5 ton equipment trailer. The Toyota would have needed a weight transfer hitch. I hate weight transfer hitches. Got the truck and the the wife then wanted a two horse gooseneck with a tack room. Truck earns its keep.
Sorry - Terrain for towing is almost 100% interstate from Washington, DC to Huntsville, AL then another 150 miles on divided 4 lane, and 20 miles on 2 lane country roads in northeast MS.. Nothing steep.
 
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I would look at another 3/4 ton. If you were towing a trailer that weighed 8k I’d say a half ton would be fine. One reason I always harp on payload is because people get a truck that the ads say has 2200 payload for example. Of course this is a lightly optioned regular cab 2x4. They get a 4x4, King Ranch, Platinum crew cab with the optional BMW/Mercedes option package with the lead weighted automatic side steps and a kitchenette in the back seat and then find out the payload is 1200 pounds.
 
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Towing anything over 10,000 lbs with ANY half-ton pickup is not going to be a good experience...unless it's just a short trip, a few miles. Especially an enclosed trailer with all the wind resistance that entails.

Been there, done that. I've had 12,000 lbs behind my F150 Ecoboost. Payload on the sticker on the door is 1937 lbs, and it wears 10 ply tires. Pulled it just fine but stability was not, what with strong cross winds and buffeting from passing 18 wheelers.

Why I own two trucks...the F150 for the light jobs. A Dodge/Cummins dually for the real work. The difference in stability, in feeling of being in control, with the dually is light years over the F150.
 
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Critical parameters to me (other than a good running truck) are a tighter turning diameter/radius (currently about 60') and tow capacity of 10.1K.
We are partial to Ford (only dealership that is "local") and our eldest recommended looking for a Tundra SR5.
So any recommendations?
I want a tow capacity of 10.1K to fully legally be able to tow my trailer with no major concern that the random Mississippi road stops will have a justification to say I was breaking the law.
I don't think I'll ever need to haul a full 10K. And I've a 12K rated Hudson trailer, with a 12.5K rated dually IF I need to go a little heavier.
 
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My 2017 Tundra SR5 Double Cab 4x4 has a towing capacity of 9900 lbs.
 
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