Towing 10.1K with either Toyota Tundra SR5 OR F150 which is better?

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   / Towing 10.1K with either Toyota Tundra SR5 OR F150 which is better? #21  
I have a 2014 F 150 with a 3.5 Ecoboost, it will two your 10,000 lbs trailer just fine and even better if you put LT E rated tires and add airbags to the rear axle. Those two alone will bring the truck to its full potential and beyond. I drug a 3 horse slant load heavy steel bumper pull trailer all over Southern Illinois and have since gone to a Corn Pro 3 horse gooseneck (16' floor) horse trailer. The truck handles this one, even being heavier, better than the bumper pull I used to have.

I've often drug equipment or dump trailers around in the 8-12,000 lbs range. I will continue to use my F 150 because I have it, it is well beyond paid for, it is in good shape with low miles and does the job fine, but my next truck will be a 3/4 or 1 ton. I wouldn't be shy of a 6.2 or 7.3 gas V8 for what you are going to do, they are both good engines and take alot of abuse.
 
   / Towing 10.1K with either Toyota Tundra SR5 OR F150 which is better? #22  
There weren't many of the previous gen V8 Tundras that have a full 10,100 lb towing capacity. Maybe a single cab work truck if you can find one. Most are in the mid 9000lbs range. Extended cab, 4x4 and options eat into the capacity. My 2wd 2017 SR5+ is 9600.

The new turbo V6 models probably have a higher rating.
 
   / Towing 10.1K with either Toyota Tundra SR5 OR F150 which is better? #23  
10k lb. on a 1/2 ton truck, you're looking at using a WDH on either, for the required tongue weight alone. You go heavy on the truck (F250/350) for the convenience of avoiding the damned WDH, but if you're already resigned to staying in the 1/2 ton class, you just have to accept you'll be using one.

At that point, it comes down to factors other than towing capacity. I'm sure either can be bought in a configuration with towing capacity > 10k lb, once you remove hitch weight from the equation (again, thanks to WDH).

An old friend has been towing a 13k lb. camper trailer all over the country the last five years with his F150 6-cyl Ecoboost, and absolutely loves the thing. They do nothing for me, but again, he's thrilled with it. Says it pulls better than his old 5.8L F250, if you can believe that.
 
   / Towing 10.1K with either Toyota Tundra SR5 OR F150 which is better? #24  
The new turbo V6 models probably have a higher rating.
Good call, looks like the closest match to mine (with the new V6) has 11,200 towing capacity.
 
   / Towing 10.1K with either Toyota Tundra SR5 OR F150 which is better? #25  
Tow capability for a vehicle depend on much more than the tow vehicles make, model and engine. In most cases it is limited by the weight on the tongue and rear axle.

With a 10.1 k trailer on a frame hitch you would be seeing at least 1,010 lbs and up to 1,515 lbs on that hitch. With a 5th wheel of gooseneck it would be between 2,020 lbs and up to 2,525 lbs.
 
   / Towing 10.1K with either Toyota Tundra SR5 OR F150 which is better? #26  
An old friend has been towing a 13k lb. camper trailer all over the country the last five years with his F150 6-cyl Ecoboost, and absolutely loves the thing. They do nothing for me, but again, he's thrilled with it. Says it pulls better than his old 5.8L F250, if you can believe that.
Having had a 1997 heavy duty regular cab F 250 4wd with a 5.8 auto yes I can believe the 3.5 Ecoboost F 150 I have now will tow better than the older F 250 did, in every sense of me saying that by far. But in 1997 you would have needed an F 250 to do what the F150's today can do.
 
   / Towing 10.1K with either Toyota Tundra SR5 OR F150 which is better? #27  
Check the turning radius on an f150, my f450 turned much tighter that my f150.
 
   / Towing 10.1K with either Toyota Tundra SR5 OR F150 which is better? #28  
10k lb. on a 1/2 ton truck, you're looking at using a WDH on either, for the required tongue weight alone. You go heavy on the truck (F250/350) for the convenience of avoiding the damned WDH, but if you're already resigned to staying in the 1/2 ton class, you just have to accept you'll be using one.

At that point, it comes down to factors other than towing capacity. I'm sure either can be bought in a configuration with towing capacity > 10k lb, once you remove hitch weight from the equation (again, thanks to WDH).

An old friend has been towing a 13k lb. camper trailer all over the country the last five years with his F150 6-cyl Ecoboost, and absolutely loves the thing. They do nothing for me, but again, he's thrilled with it. Says it pulls better than his old 5.8L F250, if you can believe that.

My F250 Super Duty Diesel required a WD hitch over 5000 on the bumper, same as the F150.

Yes the ecoboost would out pull a 351/5.8, My Ecoboost will pull grades faster than my 7.3 diesel 6-speed would.
 
   / Towing 10.1K with either Toyota Tundra SR5 OR F150 which is better? #29  
Having had a 1997 heavy duty regular cab F 250 4wd with a 5.8 auto yes I can believe the 3.5 Ecoboost F 150 I have now will tow better than the older F 250 did, in every sense of me saying that by far. But in 1997 you would have needed an F 250 to do what the F150's today can do.
Yeah, minus the tongue weight issue, I believe you. I forgot to mention, but the friend I was speaking of in that post has a pretty serious WDH setup for that rig. Makes popping the trailer off of the truck for a quick run into town a "bit of a thing", in his words.

I have a half dozen trailers, but all with tongue weights below that of my truck, so I've not had the pleasure of messing with WDH's myself.
 
   / Towing 10.1K with either Toyota Tundra SR5 OR F150 which is better? #30  
My F250 Super Duty Diesel required a WD hitch over 5000 on the bumper, same as the F150.

Yes the ecoboost would out pull a 351/5.8, My Ecoboost will pull grades faster than my 7.3 diesel 6-speed would.
If you really mean "on the bumper", then I guess I could believe that 500 lb. is just the tongue weight rating of the bumper itself, which seems reasonable. But if you mean on a proper hitch receiver, then I'd be surprised if any 3/4 ton configuration in a given brand doesn't have a much higher tongue weight rating than the 1/2 ton configuration of the same brand.

Manufacturers vary tow rating according to engine, drivetrain and brake configuration, but they all top out at a maximum of 10x tongue weight rating. You could say it's optimistic to assume anyone could manage to load a trailer for a perfect min. limit 10% tongue weight, but at least it's a consistent rating method for comparison.
 
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