Would you book a trip to outer space or under sea?

[tallyho8]

Good Afternoon Tallyho8,
I think Im quite OK with looking at pictures that other people took while there down there !

Hi Scott.
I almost forgot about thingy until I saw your signature in the above post. I used to enjoy most of his posts even though some others argued that his posts were going to make TBN run out of commas.

 

[ROUSTABOUT]

I don't want to go no lower than diggin taters or no higher than pullin corn.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

A YouTube star rode in the Titan sub days before it went missing. His footage shows OceanGate CEO Stockton Rush discussing control issues with the 'brains' of the sub.

This guy was to dive on the third dive that got scrubbed

Sounds like carbon fiber hulls suffer from repeated flexing.

As one who keeps checking for his SS deposit each month I don't get such invites thankfully.

A sad event for sure. I am passing on Mars as well. A Cybertruck on Earth trip will do me fine.

 

[ruffdog]

Sounds like carbon fiber hulls suffer from repeated flexing.

When he first floated the idea of mixing titanium and carbon fiber for the construction, other's said NO...always go ALL titanium. Some people have to learn the hard way I guess.

 

[etpm]

I used to scuba dive and loved it. There was a time when I would have gladly entered a contest to go to the ISS and then spend a week or two there. But now I am so claustrophobic I have a hard time even watching TV shows or movies showing people in tight spots.
When James Cameron went down to the deepest spot in the ocean he was pretty much curled into the fetal position for hours on end during that dive. I now have a hard time even writing about it.
When I heard that the Titan sub, the one that just imploded, had a hatch that could only be opened from the outside, I couldn't believe that anybody would even get into the damn thing. Before it was determined that it had imploded I kept thinking about how the sub could be at the surface but lost to the rescue crews. And the people inside unable to open the hatch. And so they suffocated. While looking at the sky. So no thanks, I can no longer handle confined spaces.
Eric

 

[2manyrocks]

I'm not sure what anyone could have realistically seen of the Titanic wreckage from the window in that submersible. 2.5 miles down, the lighting can't be that great. What you could see could depend on how much sediment is in the water at the time. Someone could take a lot of nice trips on $250,000 to other places where you could actually see better and not be risking your life so much in the process.

 

[scott_vt]

Hi Scott.
I almost forgot about thingy until I saw your signature in the above post. I used to enjoy most of his posts even that some others argued that his posts were going to make TBN run out of commas.

Good Morning Dudley,
That has to be one of the funniest things I have read on this forum in 20 years !
Thought it was important to keep that quote alive !!

 

[oosik]

I said NO to both. These are my reasons---
- fear
- cost of the trip
- cost for my share of the potential recovery efforts

 

[Sigarms]

For only $250, I'm running trips to the bottom of Lake Norman, and YOU can become a mission specialist and wear the patch proudly!

In all seriousness, I used to do a lot of scuba diving, and have even done some decompression dives. Even being at 100' to 200' below sea level is serious business. One atmospheric pressure every 33' below sea level. You'd be surprised how quick that adds up. Plan your dive, dive your plan and know your tables.

I understand being underwater in a pressurized submersible is not the same, however, the dangers of pressure underwater are the same.

I have little doubt that once that sub lost contact, it was gone that second. I read it was a planned 480 minute trip. Contact was lost about 105 minutes into the trip. The titanic lies around 12,000' below sea level. Sub had to be well below a couple of thousand feet underwater. I have no doubt actual diving limits for military subs are confidential, but in general, you won't find one that will go below 1000', and that's even pushing it. Don't get me wrong, I know smaller special built subs can and do go deeper, but at that kind of depth, it's instant game over with any small possible defect. I believe this was the 3rd decent to that depth for this sub. Just wonder what kind of testing was done on the hull after each dive.

I understand equipment "ratings" can be a political game for organizations to make money, but when you're dealing with life and death situation when using a product, I do believe their is an argument for some kind of official testing.

Bigger question is who will be paying for "search and rescue" operation? Figure how much fuel and man hours were used? Reality is you will find NOTHING of human remains. Pack it up and let what's left sit at the bottom. New "international rule" is you want to run a paid trip past 800 feet of water for people that have more money than brains, any issues, you're on your own or bill the people directly that have more money than brains.

 

[2manyrocks]

I did some experimenting with carbon fiber tubing once. It was very strong for its weight, but it seemed to me that once it reached its breaking point, it was done.