I love electric vehicles. But increasingly I feel duped

[Rockbadchild]

You often hear that the Chinese are bringing a coal-fired power plant on-line every week, on average. (That's a startling real statistic if you think about it.) The most shocking thing that I never hear mentioned is that they're burning US coal in those plants. The Chinese buy coal mined in the US, ship it all the way to the other side of the planet (using large amounts of fossil fuel), and burn it to generate electricity.

These barges of US coal float past dozens of our power plants on the way there. We won't use it because we're too environmentally-conscious. Actually, we're too misguided.

How many ridiculous wind turbines and solar panels will we need to install to counter this trend?? Wouldn't it be better to keep it here, burn it here in the cleanest way possible, and lower our energy costs?

you are making too much sense here

 

[Paystar]

In my opinion this whole "climate crisis" agenda is the biggest global financial scam ever conceived in the history of man.

I don't know......corona virus ranks right up there too. It sure worked to change the world's economy.

 

[CH4Ohio]

Back when "horseless buggies" first came about, there were similar arguments. The cars definitely had their issues and sometimes were left by the roadside broken. Horse driven buggy drivers would happily give them a ride to town, then tell everyone about it. All these years later, we are still improving the horseless carriage and are questioning new technology. What will we be riding in 50 years from now?

True. But the GOVERNMENT didn't MANDATE that people stop riding horses, or make horses unavailable, or require a transition to the NEW technology before it was proven.

The free-market worked and people bought cars, and oil companies built gas stations, etc. The government didn't build the "fueling" stations or pay for the fuel. The consumer decided how to spend their money and what made the most sense.

Today the government is perverting the market with their subsidies and mandates and targets based on this latest version of the climate-change religion. It's hocus-pocus.

 

[Rockbadchild]

I don't know......corona virus ranks right up there too. It sure worked to change the world's economy.

although they are just getting started with the ''climate crisis''

 

[Rockbadchild]

True. But the GOVERNMENT didn't MANDATE that people stop riding horses, or make horses unavailable, or require a transition to the NEW technology before it was proven.

The free-market worked and people bought cars, and oil companies built gas stations, etc. The government didn't build the "fueling" stations or pay for the fuel. The consumer decided how to spend their money and what made the most sense.

Today the government is perverting the market with their subsidies and mandates and targets based on this latest version of the climate-change religion. It's hocus-pocus.

100% let the market dictate what the people wants.

 

[CH4Ohio]

• Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire

ruffdog,

Your tagline is very appropriate to this conversation!! Good quote!

regards,

 

[Oaktree]

Illustrates a few things..... but one that stuck with me was his own infrastructure cost (whether the chargers cost 20k or 10k - vague across a few other articles, by the time you add 6k installation..... at even Canuck prices, a minimum of $16k CAD still buys a lot of fuel).

And if you have multiple vehicles, as many/most of us do you may need multiple chargers if these vehicles are all used regularly. Not to mention possible service upgrade to your home...many older places only have 100A service.
As you noted, you can buy a lot of gas for that kind of money.

 

[arto98607]

I do not understand why electric vehicle do not have a generator built in to be able to keep going and charge its own batteries...

you know instead of doing this...

I suppose this is why Tesla and others have been working on electric pickup models!

 

[ruffdog]

ruffdog,

Your tagline is very appropriate to this conversation!! Good quote!

regards,

It sure does. Remember not too long ago someone was impressed with all the rail cars filled with "clean coal"? A person has to be vigilant in what you think is the truth, regardless which side you are on. Search: clean coal lie. regards,

" He also has said in other appearances that clean coal can be exported or “loaded up” on railway cars."

 

[tacticalturnip]

It sure does. Remember not too long ago someone was impressed with all the rail cars filled with "clean coal"? A person has to be vigilant in what you think is the truth, regardless which side you are on. Search: clean coal lie. regards,

" He also has said in other appearances that clean coal can be exported or “loaded up” on railway cars."

I've sat here writing response after to response, just to cut everything I write. I don't even know how to reply, because I really hope I'm misreading or misinterpreting what you're saying. It seems that you just compared the coal industry to the holocaust; you've taken figurative dumps on folks here for making less offensive remarks.