Selling a house, real estate commission

   / Selling a house, real estate commission #41  
When I recommend someone I would trust for work to be done on my behalf to others, my reputation is on the line as much as the person I'm recommending.

Very true, there use to be a time when a mans word was as good as his reputation.
 
   / Selling a house, real estate commission #42  
Very true, there use to be a time when a mans word was as good as his reputation.
When I deal with people in my line of work, my word is my reputation.

I have no doubt there are others like me, in any profession which you speak ill will of that hold to the same philosophy as I do.

Over time, I've "fired" more than my fair share of customers because they didn't hold the same type of philosophy (ironic, a higher percentage I "fire" always seem to preach Jesus Christ in work to help in their sales, but thy can't pay their bills, go figure LOL).

We go back to "due unto others...."
 
   / Selling a house, real estate commission #43  
Yes I have seen my share of those...
 
   / Selling a house, real estate commission #44  
We purchased my mother in laws house and I negotiated $550 total costs for the realtor and attorney fees. It was thru a friend who is a realtor, and $500 of that went to the company for using their services. Less than half a percent in costs to me! I had recently turned her onto two sales that netted her a good chunk of change since she handled both sides of two sales that she listed, and was appreciative besides being a friend.
David from jax
 
   / Selling a house, real estate commission #45  
We purchased my mother in laws house and I negotiated $550 total costs for the realtor and attorney fees. It was thru a friend who is a realtor, and $500 of that went to the company for using their services. Less than half a percent in costs to me! I had recently turned her onto two sales that netted her a good chunk of change since she handled both sides of two sales that she listed, and was appreciative besides being a friend.
David from jax
This is no different than hiring a HVAC professional for their job knowledge.

For $550 total costs for realtor and attorney fees, that's less than a 1% commision if the house sold anywhere above 100k.

End of the day, you HAVE to know your profession. If you're a professional and know you're crap per work, no way you can make a living off of 1% of the sale.

The realtor who sold us on our home also represented the buyer. Little more trickier because their was additional as an option. I called the realtor recently because we had to deal with our septic tank. He's 72 now, owns his company, and told me he may or may not retire due to his grandkids. If we ever sell, he will be our realtor because as he explained to me, when you're dealing with land, things in the realty world are a little different. He knows his crap and if I'm making money selling a house, I want someone doing it that knows that they are doing.
 
   / Selling a house, real estate commission #46  
My friends were downsizing and listed their home and kicked the Realtor out… they were most unhappy with his unprofessionalism

The old couple were in bed sleeping and heard a noise and it was a Realtor showing the house at 9 at night… Realtor said he called and left a message he was coming.

Anyway, I said I might be interested and another Realtor did the sale for 1% and used the terms I typed up and the 1% was $6,000

The 1% Realtor turned out good for me because she added a rent back provision which I thought unnecessary but turned out the daughter stayed 3 months after close and I was covered!
 
   / Selling a house, real estate commission #47  
The 1% Realtor turned out good for me because she added a rent back provision which I thought unnecessary but turned out the daughter stayed 3 months after close and I was covered!
Here I thought I missed out going into the medical profession because EVERYONE needs medical issues attended to vs how comfortable they feel in thier home with their HVAC system.

That said, either I'm smart enough to understand that making 1% net profit off of a sale is next to impossible running a business, or, I should have said screw HVAC and any thoughts of the medical profession, and should have gotten into selling real estate because that's where the money is!
 
   / Selling a house, real estate commission #48  
Almost none of our Doctors encourage kids to be Doctors…

The reason is medicine has changed so much and cost of entry is very high.

Funny you mention Real Estate… one of the Docs said his 27 year old son who dropped out of college is making mid 6 figures as a commercial broker…

Know some very successful Realtors with no trade or college… they are just people persons, always available and live and breath Real Estate.

That said many see it as easy and that’s why few can make it a career when reality hits.

I took the test with no study and passed and had the background check, etc. but decided not to send in the money for the license…

Much prefer to do my own deals…
 
   / Selling a house, real estate commission #49  
I will not give realtors any money for what they did to the housing market. They overinflated it without a thought to what they were doing.

I'm sorry but every realtor I know feels they should drive a new escalade every two years...that mentality has to stop.
I am surprised at the comment and the number of "likes."

Having been a licensed RE broker, in multiple states, for a very long time I have a difficult time understanding any of this. I guess the average public sees a quick sale on a property and deduces its peaches and cream and easy money in real estate.

If the impression is that realtors are lowlife scum bagging huge easy money, with little effort or ethics required, I'd suggest getting your license and giving it a whirl. After all, the shower of easy money is so huge there is certainly plenty for all!!! :D
 
   / Selling a house, real estate commission #51  
I am in the process of buying 4 more rental homes. I told the seller I will pay all closing if we don't use a realtor. It's not hard.

It's saving me close to 40k.

I will not give realtors any money for what they did to the housing market. They overinflated it without a thought to what they were doing.

I'm sorry but every realtor I know feels they should drive a new escalade every two years...that mentality has to stop.
Careful not to lump us all in the same boat. my vehicle is a 2010 chevy truck and I think its ridiculous the way prices are. But to criticize a Realtor for getting good money for a listing - thats what were paid to do,,,. If the appraisal says its worth it based on the market I dont see how we are to blame
 
   / Selling a house, real estate commission #52  
I am surprised at the comment and the number of "likes."

Having been a licensed RE broker, in multiple states, for a very long time I have a difficult time understanding any of this. I guess the average public sees a quick sale on a property and deduces its peaches and cream and easy money in real estate.

If the impression is that realtors are lowlife scum bagging huge easy money, with little effort or ethics required, I'd suggest getting your license and giving it a whirl. After all, the shower of easy money is so huge there is certainly plenty for all!!! :D

No offense, but there is no skill in being a RE agent. They have no maco understanding of what their advising of home price has lead to. It was a racket for a long time. Real estate agents and appraisers were locked together to get what ever price was put forth.

I’ve attended open houses that are intended primarily for brokers (as a buyer representing myself). Everyone assumes if you’re there, you’re a broker. I’ve overheard buyers’ agents telling the listing agent that the place was under-priced and would go for above ask—not what you’d expect if the buyer’s agents were looking out for their buyers!

I’ve also heard buyer’s agents discuss amongst each other how high they thought they could talk their clients into bidding.

And it’s easy to understand why—it’s in their collective interest to drive prices up.

It takes just as much work to sell a $500,000 house as it does to sell a $2,000,000 house. But the commission for a $2,000,000 house is four times higher.

Both buyers’ and sellers’ brokers are paid a commission which is a percent of the sales price. So they want a fast close, with high certainty of completion, at a high price.

Realtors also generally want housing prices to be going up because it generates excitement about real estate as an investment and makes their jobs easier. Buyers want to buy and sellers want to sell.

In 2008–2009, after prices dropped, a lot of realtors went under as the market was falling and interest in real estate dropped off. Sellers didn’t want to lock in losses. Buyers expected prices to keep falling.

Volume went down and realtors couldn’t get as many commissions.

Everyone who survived that period remembers the lesson—rising prices are good for realtors. Falling markets are devastating.

For fun, try to get a realtor to submit an offer for less than asking price or less than market based on recent transactions. This is totally reasonable—why not try to get a bargain? Another house will come along in a few weeks, and you might save tens of thousands of dollars by being a little bit patient.

Realtors absolutely HATE it and will try anything to talk you into going in at or above asking price.

You don’t buy real estate often. It’s your money. Recognize that your realtor has a conflict of interest and make sure you know how to use them to serve your interests, not theirs.
 
   / Selling a house, real estate commission #53  
Careful not to lump us all in the same boat. my vehicle is a 2010 chevy truck and I think its ridiculous the way prices are. But to criticize a Realtor for getting good money for a listing - thats what were paid to do,,,. If the appraisal says its worth it based on the market I dont see how we are to blame

I wish banks had a separate pool of appraisers to view a house and advise the bank what the house is really worth. Then the bank should only lend what their non-bised appraier says the value is. The buyer then could still buy the house, but would have to pay cash for what the difference between market value and the purchase price is. This would have stunted how much the market could appreciate in one year.

There is no way housing should have double in value in 5 years. We have decades of housing metrics to tell us housing should increase by 3-5% per year, not 25%.

Relators are to blame for gaming the entire system with phony appraised values.

However they are now going to pay the price. Nobody is selling and nobody is buying. The market is locked up.

Great job to you and your coworkers...
 
   / Selling a house, real estate commission #54  
Often it’s a lot more work to sell on the lower end of the spectrum… first time buyers, older properties, sketchy areas.

I’ve never bought a property without writing my own terms… starting at age 21…

When I write I know every word…

The agent/broker is there to present…

As a buyer I have no problem introducing myself to the seller… just the way I was raised.

That said, buying or selling I have never begrudged a commission earned.

Many purchases I would not have even known about with a good agent bird dogging.
 
   / Selling a house, real estate commission #55  
Often it’s a lot more work to sell on the lower end of the spectrum… first time buyers, older properties, sketchy areas.

I’ve never bought a property with writing my own terms…

When I write I know every word…

The agent/broker is there to present…

As a buyer I have no problem introducing myself to the seller… just the way I was raised.

That said, buying or selling I have never begrudged a commission earned.

Many purchases I would not have even known about with a good agent bird dogging.

RE agents would have been better off having a nice steady appreciating market than one where it booms and then busts.

They turned it into a speculative market, where bad actors like Wall Street and hedge funds got in for the easy money. When those entities exit the market, it will take the livelihoods of a lot of RE agents.

Will they learn...?
 
   / Selling a house, real estate commission #56  
I’ve only known boom and bust…

Know a lot that panic and sell only to regret later…

Lower income say why stay when I can rent for half of my payments?

Well to do did strategic defaults buying a replacement home at rock bottom price and then walk from first home… often in same neighborhood.
 
   / Selling a house, real estate commission #57  
I'm a dummy. I never realized that it's not an actual issue of inventory, but salesmanship and minipulation by poeple selling the product.

I need to try that strategy in the my market!
 
   / Selling a house, real estate commission #58  
There are games for sure…

House down the street came up as bank owned and I made a very good offer meeting all the Wells Fargo requirements.

Many made offers so Wells Fargo comes back and says it’s opening up a second round of bidding to those that bid for highest and final offer…

My agent said what are you going to do… I said I made my offer and pulled out.

Sometimes property will be listed at a very low price to generate interest and it does work but not my thing…

Buyers play games too tying up a property on a fishing trip to see if they really want it.
 
   / Selling a house, real estate commission #59  
I'm a dummy. I never realized that it's not an actual issue of inventory, but salesmanship and minipulation by poeple selling the product.

I need to try that strategy in the my market!

Wait until you find out what causes inventory issues.

Your mind will be blown...
 

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