Will UAW Strike?

[riptides]

Where is management for quality control? Where is management for process control? Where is management for marketing?
The problem is mismanagement. And it goes all the way up to the c-Suite.

 

[Hay Dude]

Hopefully more Americans will recognize that big government is not in their best interest

LOL, good luck with that.
Like 81 million people just voted for overbearing, large, heavy handed, heavy regulations government.

 

[hiddentacocatneddih]

The MBA'ing of America ruins companies

 

[JasperFrank]

We need consumers, but we don't want or need more people..... I see a bit of a problem here......

 

[Torvy]

Where is management for quality control? Where is management for process control? Where is management for marketing?
The problem is mismanagement. And it goes all the way up to the c-Suite.

Clearly don't understand how much the union prevents any control that they don't like. You are getting close to understanding the problem. The union adds a layer of management that works at cross purposes. See, in the rest of the world they have those controls and when the guy who was supposed to execute the control doesn't do it, he gets written up or fired. When that happens in a union shop, the steward gets involved and starts arguing that the control is unfair to poor old Joe. It has only been in place for 5 years and Joe's been here for 18. That same steward might 'unofficially' note that Joe is a worthless POS, but he's union, so no punishment for Joe. Bad quality continues. This example is based on real world incident(s) from Milwaukee, WI.

 

[MossRoad]

When I first started at my last job, I saw a department director tell a union employee to go wipe down #13. That meant the person was supposed to go to machine #13 and wipe the entire thing down with cleaning solvent. The thing was about the size of a full sized van.

Half an hour later we go down there and the guy was standing there with a rag making circular motions on the #13 printed on the side of unit #13. All he had done for half an hour was wipe that printed number, an area of about an 8" circle.

"What are you doing?"

"You told me to wipe down #13, so I'm wiping #13."

That's the kind of union BS I was raised with. Not a thing could be done about it. Soured me to the unions pretty quickly at that job. Eventually, that union voted themselves out because the company offered better benefits to non-union employees.

But, as mentioned before, today I work with a lot of union carpenters, plumbers, electricians, etc., and for the most part, they are great.

 

[DbSt]

I worked a labor union job for 13 years, best move I made was getting out so I could advance on my own merits.
Big difference between labor unions and skilled trade unions, I have a lot of respect for most of the skilled trade men and women, not much use for labor union where the only thing that matters is seniority.

 

[MossRoad]

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Big difference between labor unions and skilled trade unions...

I found that out over my lifetime. Pretty much sums it up.

 

[NoTrespassing]

In the late 80's I was making about $10/hr as a machinist. The GM plant was shutting down about 30 miles from where I worked and several union guys applied at the little machine shop I was working at. They told my boss they needed a minimum of $20 per hour. They didn't get hired. Now, over 30 years later, that former union "city" has depressed wages and the non union city 30 miles away has higher wages.

 

[bigtiller]

Big difference between labor unions and skilled trade unions, I have a lot of respect for most of the skilled trade men and women, not much use for labor union where the only thing that matters is seniority.

Yes sir, there's a huge difference between labor unions and skilled trade closed unions.

There are no dead beets in a closed shop. If a person becomes lazy/difficult he will be told to report to his business agent at the union hall for another job. If that performance becomes a habit, the BA simply won't find that person another job until everyone else in the union has a job.

In other words, habitual problem people in a closed union are the last to get hired and the first to be sent home on every job.

This country needs more closed shop unions.