Will UAW Strike?

[ruffdog]

I haven't seen any action at the charging station yet. If you are into that sort of entertainment, a boat launch is a better bet.

 

[tradosaurus]

I haven't seen any action at the charging station yet. If you are into that sort of entertainment, a boat launch is a better bet.

Seen plenty of utube videos of those.

 

[Snobdds]

Haven't seen a Tesla supercharging station with less than 8 stations.

So a high tech car that doesn't need combustible fuel is a giant leap backwards in evolution? I've seen videos of gunfights happening a gas stations.

Why are you so hostile toward EV's?

Well you need to come to Wyoming, then you'll see one.

The giant leap backwards is the time it takes to "recharge" and go about your day. This guys had to wait at least 5 hours to continue his day.

To me that is a giant leap backwards, especially considering we have these cars that can fuel up in 10 minutes. No technology has ever had staying power next to a more efficient technology. NEVER!!

 

[Snobdds]

I haven't seen any action at the charging station yet. If you are into that sort of entertainment, a boat launch is a better bet.

Go spend some time at one and just observe.

It's fascinating to watch.

 

[Torvy]

I didn't assume anything. I read it on Tesla's site.

It doesn't matter how many stations there are, you don't get but 60% or so of the range if you are following the recommended charging.

You and i leave Texarkana to drive to El Paso. Don't even have to leave Texas. Just over 800 miles. You charge all the way up to 100% before you leave. So the long range Y goes a max of 330 miles X 80% means 264 miles before you are supposed to charge, but only to 80%. Best case you wait 30 minutes to charge up to 80%, but from now on you only have about 198 miles before you have to stop for another 30 minutes. You are now at least an hour behind me as I haven't had to stop yet. Before we arrive you will need to stop 1 more time minimum. 90 minutes of fueling for you. I will need to stop once for 10 gallons. 15 minutes or less for me. So in the best case scenario, it takes 75 minutes longer to make the same trip, one way.

The charger issues become a potential problem if they don't line up when you need a charge or when the chargers are full. Using a fair situation, it's a busy day and there are lines for both gas and superchargers. I wait 15 minutes in line and 15 minutes to fuel. You wait 30 minutes in line and 30 minutes to fuel. My 15 minute advantage becomes 30. Even worse, if the whole trip is busy, you lose another hour. This is in addition to the time cost of a best case scenario using Tesla data. Lots of other variables could make it worse.

I used full EV in the Prius driving 8 miles to work each way. Charge up every other night and didn't need gas unless I got aggressive with the acceleration. I get using an EV if you don't go very far. Absolutely ridiculous to have anyone suggest, recommend or worse, mandate an EV.

 

[NoTrespassing]

Probably less dangerous to just watch videos.

Tesla driver fatally shot in fight at Denver charging station

Investigators haven’t said what sparked the fight, which broke out in a parking lot outside a food hall in Edgewater.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Snobdds]

I'm surprised more people don't get shot at those stations. It will happen...

 

[Oaktree]

All I know is OEM supplier facilities are striking and dealers are already whining about the lack of OEM parts availability to which I think, who the hell buys OEM (overpriced parts) when outfits like Rock Auto and 1A Auto offer the same stuff for much less. As of late, I've become a big fan of 1A Auto versus Rock.

Never heard of 1A, but the big downside to Rock Auto is once you factor in shipping they aren't much of a bargain. And it never seems to fail that if you order multiple items, the parts NEVER all ship from the same warehouse, so you get hit twice (or more) on shipping. Sometimes you still save, other times not. I'm comparing to my friendly local autoparts store, not necessarily the dealer.

 

[Snobdds]

Ford pauses work on $3.5 bln battery plant in Michigan

Ford Motor said on Monday it has paused work on a $3.5 billion electric vehicle battery plant in Michigan, citing concerns about its ability to competitively operate the plant at a time when it remains locked in broader contract negotiations.

www.reuters.com

This doesn't seem strike related, but a business decision forecasting no EV demand. There also might be a china angle in there too...

 

[Torvy]

Ford pauses work on $3.5 bln battery plant in Michigan

Ford Motor said on Monday it has paused work on a $3.5 billion electric vehicle battery plant in Michigan, citing concerns about its ability to competitively operate the plant at a time when it remains locked in broader contract negotiations.

www.reuters.com

This doesn't seem strike related, but a business decision forecasting no EV demand. There also might be a china angle in there too...

Probably a bit of: 'hey, turns out we cannot make these for anywhere near what they are going to sell for'. The photo op was all we really wanted anyway.