Tractors and wood! Show your pics

[John_Mc]

In Illinois there is no standard measurement requirement, or if there is, it’s completely ignored.

Most of the larger sellers in my part of Vermont sell by the cord, but it is widely ignored by smaller sellers ("hobbyist" firewood producers or people who just cleaned up a tree or two and want to get rid of it.)

 

[hunt4570]

I never understood buying firewood, the only real reason I deal with a wood stove is due to the "free" fuel I can get off my property.

 

[Eagle1]

I never understood buying firewood, the only real reason I deal with a wood stove is due to the "free" fuel I can get off my property.

Some do sell the free stuff.... I sell camp firewood a bit more profitable than by the cord and pays for my tools, gas, and parts so I get "free" heat.

 

[hunt4570]

Some do sell the free stuff.... I sell camp firewood a bit more profitable than by the cord and pays for my tools, gas, and parts so I get "free" heat.

I've thought about selling some here and there, yes the small amounts, but just didn't seem worth it to me.

 

[dodge man]

I have a decent chainsaw, a hydraulic splitter and a tractor to help move stuff around. Even with those tools I’d feel if I sold firewood I’d be lucky to make over $10 and hour.

 

[hunt4570]

I have a decent chainsaw, a hydraulic splitter and a tractor to help move stuff around. Even with those tools I’d feel if I sold firewood I’d be lucky to make over $10 and hour.

Agreed, and I have all those things too!
Dang, last count I think I have 6 chainsaws!

 

[KennyG]

I have a decent chainsaw, a hydraulic splitter and a tractor to help move stuff around. Even with those tools I’d feel if I sold firewood I’d be lucky to make over $10 and hour.

You should be around here during tourist season when a "bundle" (arm load) goes for $5.

 

[Eagle1]

I've thought about selling some here and there, yes the small amounts, but just didn't seem worth it to me.

I've sold to locals and other campgrounds but my own captive customer base works ok. I figure if it pays for fuel and maintenance it makes my firewood mostly free.
I sell half load in the BX loader for 7 and full load for 15. Used to be 5 and 10 until other prices went through the roof. Now they want $9 for a little bundles (like 5 or 6 pieces) at the nearby campgrounds.

 

[LD48750]

In some states, selling by any other measure than by the cord (e.g. "pickup truck load" or "pile") is illegal. Though if it's between a willing seller and a willing buyer, I'm not sure who would lodge a complaint that would kick off enforcement action (assuming that the volume has not been misrepresented.

What states would that be?

 

[John_Mc]

What states would that be?

Vermont, for one. New Hampshire as well. Ohio for another (I used to live there). There are a number of other states, but I did not bother to memorize them since they don't directly affect me. It's a rule that is often ignored, and many are not even aware that it is a rule in their state.

 

[hunt4570]

Vermont, for one. New Hampshire as well. Ohio for another (I used to live there). There are a number of other states, but I did not bother to memorize them since they don't directly affect me. It's a rule that is often ignored, and many are not even aware that it is a rule in their state.

What about that infamous Rick, can you sell Rick there ??
Sorry, I couldnt resist!

 

[goeduck]

How are they selling it - by the cord from pre stacked piles on the ground and that is just their loading method or by the truck load w/o a size stated ????

gg

Apparently, they are selling just as they say, "Loose fill only to the top of the bedrail". They obviously know that loose fill amounts to much less wood than tight stacked and THEY load the truck. The "bedrail" is stipulated not to exceed 22.5". Their add had prices by bed length as follows:

PRICING:
6ft bed or less......Loose fill to top of bedrail..$160.
6.5ft bed..............Loose fill to top of bedrail..$180.
7-7.5 bed.............Loose fill to top of bedrail..$200.
8ft bed................Loose fill to top of bedrail..$220.
Truck Canopy?: Add $20 (more difficult to load)

By my math I figure they are getting $550 to $600 for 4x4x8' cord with no delivery. There is a reputable guy here selling "true" cord wood at $375 delivered.

 

[John_Mc]

Loose fill to the top of the rail of my Tacoma (which I think is a 6 ft bed??) amounts to about 1/4 cord. If I mound it up, I might get to 1/3 cord. If I could get what amounts to $640 per cord (4x$160), I might decide to actually sell firewood. (As it is, I only sell the occasional cord or two when a friend is in a jam, and even then, I'll sell 12' logs and let them cut it, unless they are just not capable of doing so.)

 

[Gordon Gould]

Apparently, they are selling just as they say, "Loose fill only to the top of the bedrail". They obviously know that loose fill amounts to much less wood than tight stacked and THEY load the truck. The "bedrail" is stipulated not to exceed 22.5". Their add had prices by bed length as follows:

PRICING:
6ft bed or less......Loose fill to top of bedrail..$160.
6.5ft bed..............Loose fill to top of bedrail..$180.
7-7.5 bed.............Loose fill to top of bedrail..$200.
8ft bed................Loose fill to top of bedrail..$220.
Truck Canopy?: Add $20 (more difficult to load)

By my math I figure they are getting $550 to $600 for 4x4x8' cord with no delivery. There is a reputable guy here selling "true" cord wood at $375 delivered.

I guess if you are absolutely desperate for wood or don't care about money that would be OK. Yikes !!

gg

 

[Slowpoke Slim]

Many firewood sellers here also sell wood "by the truckload". Sure is a way to charge higher prices for smaller volumes of wood. It's almost always loose piled, and in a shortbed truck.

No thanks, I'll pass. The guy I've bought from at least hand stacks it in IBC totes, so you can "judge" how much volume you're getting. Going to have to get back on finding and splitting my own though, as he just raised his prices this year enough to make me think it's no longer a good deal. At least he would deliver totes free to the house anyway. I've got 4 totes of dry ash at the house now, which is plenty for this winter (for us), but going to have to get serious about it next spring I think.

 

[fruitcakesa]

Hemlock pulping

 

[Jstpssng]

Vermont, for one. New Hampshire as well. Ohio for another (I used to live there). There are a number of other states, but I did not bother to memorize them since they don't directly affect me. It's a rule that is often ignored, and many are not even aware that it is a rule in their state.

Maine law;

Measuring firewood: Under Maine law, firewood must be sold in one of three allowable units: standard cord, cubic foot, or loose thrown cord.

Thrown cord is described thus;

A cord of loose, unstacked wood occupies 180 cubic feet if the wood averages 12 or 16 inches in length; 195 cubic feet if the wood averages 24 inches in length.

 

[hunt4570]

Maine law;

Measuring firewood: Under Maine law, firewood must be sold in one of three allowable units: standard cord, cubic foot, or loose thrown cord.

Thrown cord is described thus;

A cord of loose, unstacked wood occupies 180 cubic feet if the wood averages 12 or 16 inches in length; 195 cubic feet if the wood averages 24 inches in length.

And the stacked cord is 128 ft.³ interesting

 

[Jstpssng]

And the stacked cord is 128 ft.³ interesting

Ultimately a cord of hardwood should contain 85 cubic feet of solid wood whereas that number of a cord of softwood is 96. This is all based on measurements taken years ago, when pulpwood was sold by the cord in 4 foot sticks.

 

[hunt4570]

Ultimately a cord of hardwood should contain 85 cubic feet of solid wood whereas that number of a cord of softwood is 96. This is all based on measurements taken years ago, when pulpwood was sold by the cord in 4 foot sticks.

Curious where you come up with that number, 85 cubic feet for a cord of wood as far as I can ever tell it was 8‘ x 4‘ x 4‘ which is 128 ft.³