Stay away from Bad Boy Tractors

[0Gt3X4N]

I'm just over 2 years in to owning a 4025H with BBH 400 backhoe and this things has been falling apart since month 2.

It started with little things like the fuel and temperature gauges no longer working. So, we never know how much fuel is in it or if it's overheating. All contact with the manufacturer falls on deaf ears and the service from the dealer is not great because they're always months behind.

The worst part is the poor build quality of these machines. The backhoe has snapped in half twice near the bucket and because it's been just over 2 years it's no longer covered under warranty. The backhoe has less than 10 hours of light duty work on it, mostly moving around black dirt on the ranch.

Because it snapped in half it's easy to see how thin the steel is and if you try to weld it, you realize that it's cheap Chinese stuff.

I regret purchasing this tractor and wish I would have gone with Deere or Kubota.

Look how thin the steel is!

https://imgur.com/1NEa0cU

Yeah, this ain't right.

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[jjeff]

That broken backhoe is discouraging, is that a stand alone with pump running off the PTO or plugs nto tractors hydraulic circuit? Next id try and figure out if there's a pressure relief, bypass valve that opens when circuits overloaded to help prevent it from happening again if you do get it fixed. I guess if there is I'd see if it's adjustable. My backwoods opinion. But I've owned a 3 point standalone BH that to my surprise and noob learning curve never broke.

 

[DK35vince]

Something looks wrong IMO
Looks to me like something (Bucket maybe) is hitting the boom arm, busting it out.

 

[tradosaurus]

Sorry to hear about your predicament. It's a painful lesson that hopefully others will learn from.

Sounds like Bad Boy cut corners to lower costs.

 

[jjeff]

There's ways to check for metal fatigue, etc by examining break more closely by someone who has experience doing it. Preliminary, before getting someone else involved I'm sure these days you can find pictures online with different types and causes of fractures.

 

[Torvy]

Bad Boy are re-badged Branson (TYM). They are know for being very heavy duty. This sounds a lot like abuse.

 

[Midniteoyl]

The backhoe has less than 10 hours of light duty work on it, mostly moving around black dirt on the ranch.

That bent pin says different.. Something doesnt look right.

 

[Fixastuff]

Bad Boy are re-badged Branson (TYM). They are know for being very heavy duty. This sounds a lot like abuse.

I don’t think Branson makes the loaders or backhoes though.

 

[tacticalturnip]

I don’t think Branson makes the loaders or backhoes though.

I just looked on Tractor House; the loaders are definitely different suppliers. I didn't look for backhoes however, but I would assume the situation the same.

 

[jjeff]

Looking at the left side of the stick looks like the steels folded over where it broke do you think you might have accidentally swung into something hard and immovable that initially dented stick that started fracture? right side looks like a clean break. What were you doing when it let go? Pulling stumps? Which from experience when I owned my 3point BH was very hard on it. The Oil got so hot it was expanding out the fill tube lol. Thinking back I still scratch my head and wonder how I didn't seriously break something. A 3 point BH is priced and built accordingly imo so folks can afford them and are definitely not as rugged as a cat 336 so should be used accordingly.

 

[ptsg]

Ansung used to make the loaders and backhoes for Branson and a lot of other manufacturers. Not sure if that is still valid today.

As for the actual issue with the tractor, very minor in my opinion, even just unplugging and re-plug the connector behind the dashboard fixes that. If not, check and cleaning all the grounds also helps that.

It's interesting that a lot of people have 0 sense of troubleshooting or even checking stuff, even the most basic stuff, yet they sure are fast coming to the forums ranting and moaning about X brand just because they had some issues, most likely self inflicted.

I saw this poster post the same rant on Reddit. There, he keeps answering the comments most likely because he has a lot people patting his back for his rant for some reason. Over here, it's a different story and he probably won't come back here any time sooner.

 

[jjeff]

Yeah I'm guilty of solution less ranting at times but why as an owner wouldn't you want to try and figure out why it broke in the first place to hopefully mitigate future problems? weather it's operator or manufacturing error? Having owned and used a 3pt bh im leaning towards operater unless tell tale signs in fractures or what the owner was truthfully doing with it tell me differently.

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

I dunno, my Branson has been rock solid. I frickin love this tractor. 90 minutes to till an acre? I’ll take it. I basically use it only for PTO work.

Now, I do care for it really well too

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

Also, not claiming that the Bad Boy versions are exactly the same as a Branson/TYM unit, because clearly they are not.

 

[jjeff]

A low hr Branson was one of my first choices when I briefly thought of replacing one of my old tractors, Better half said I'd need to get rid of one of my old Kubotas first so I shut that idea down in a hurry lol. Drifting now, but anyone get attached to various physical objects with a ice? My wife definitely does not I'm a polar opposite, until occasionally and no matter what I throw at it in terms of time and parts, reliability issues let me down continuously. Or a grass snake pops out of a hoods xbracing and almost lands on my head lol

 

[ptsg]

Also, not claiming that the Bad Boy versions are exactly the same as a Branson/TYM unit, because clearly they are not.

They are, other than paint color.

 

[tacticalturnip]

They are, other than paint color.

Negative. Bad Boy has a different attachment supplier, at least with regard to the loaders.

 

[jjeff]

Also, not claiming that the Bad Boy versions are exactly the same as a Branson/TYM unit, because clearly they are not.

I know, bad boy blacked out the rims lol.

 

[ptsg]

Negative. Bad Boy has a different attachment supplier, at least with regard to the loaders.

But the bare tractor is the same. I don't really consider attachments to be part of the tractor since they're typically made by someone else anyway.

 

[ruffdog]

Most people will abuse a backhoe at some point. Some will break sooner than others.