How do y'all feel about Frigidaire vs. GE vs. Whirlpool

[RustyA]

10 years ago replaced our kitchen appliances with Frigidaire Gallery stainless and black. Dishwasher had great reviews and has a double filtration system that is easily cleanable. Convection microwave makes great football snacks. Convection gas range bakes fabulous pizza and pastries. French door fridge with ice and water has been flawless. Bought extended warranty due to frightful stories about new appliances. No repairs to any of them for 10 years, just clean dishwasher filter and replace water filters in fridge twice a year. Filtration in dishwasher is key to long life, keeps debris out of pump system.

 

[HawkinsHollow]

10 years ago replaced our kitchen appliances with Frigidaire Gallery stainless and black. Dishwasher had great reviews and has a double filtration system that is easily cleanable. Convection microwave makes great football snacks. Convection gas range bakes fabulous pizza and pastries. French door fridge with ice and water has been flawless. Bought extended warranty due to frightful stories about new appliances. No repairs to any of them for 10 years, just clean dishwasher filter and replace water filters in fridge twice a year. Filtration in dishwasher is key to long life, keeps debris out of pump system.

Yep Frigidaire Gallery is what I'm looking at. That is great news!

 

[RustyA]

I hope you have as good of luck as we've had. I'm the cook in the family and love the range and microwave. Convection oven cooks even big casserole perfectly evenly. I have a friend with wolf and subzero appliances. He paid huge money for them and they've been nothing but trouble. Parts are expensive as heck and can only come through dealer. I'm not trying to impress anyone just want good reliable stuff that works like it's supposed to.

 

[MMC]

We are going to do a dual zone mini split. One zone for the master bed//bath and the other for the new living room. The existing will be heated and cooled by the exisitng heat pump that does a pretty good job. Yes, we are going to insulate the addition well, and possibly update some of the insulation in the existing where possible without ripping down drywall unnecessarily. Our electric bill is right around $90-120 summer and winter, and we are 100% electric appliances. We will be going to gas stove and gas on-demand water heater.

OK, enjoy reading a lot of the posts on here. Try to keep my mouth shut when I don't know stuff. But, I do know about Mitsubushi Mini Splits. I too, live in the southeast in an 1840s brick house. Which means solid brick walls with its attendant advantages and disadvantages. I have an old (well, now) boiler with wonderful, quiet, baseboard heat...with six zones. For AC and basic heat, I chose Mitsubushi "Hyper Heat" mini splits to basically zone six large rooms (the gas boiler becomes the back-up heat).

Frankly, being older, from an age when heat pumps for heat sucked, these new inverter (read computer driven) mini split heat pumps are, well, great. Very efficient and allow you to "zone" multiple rooms.

Perfect, no. But I wouldn't go back. I've replaced a compressor (because of a leak), and had a couple of small issues, but these things are great. I know you are going "dual zone" but I think you will be pleased. Mitsubushi and Fujitsu are brands that seem professional.

Frankly, I've gotten so good at working with the HVAC guys, running disconnects and watching, I'm going to install a Pioneer unit for a farm worker as a bonus. Well, if I can do auto AC, this don't look too hard (the units are precharged for a certain length). High pressure gauges and vacuum pump, and you're off and running.

My only bottom line advice is get the most efficient heating and cooling unit you can get in the brand you choose.

Best of luck. (And Bosch dishwashers don't seem that expensive - the other stuff...uh, not so much.)

 

[bigtiller]

Wis-ski-on-son

Are you trying to spell Wisconsin?

 

[jyoutz]

Are you trying to spell Wisconsin?

With the appropriate accent.

 

[JasperFrank]

I have trouble putting faith in any US brand any more. I think I'm the last generation to believe in American exceptionalism.

 

[2manyrocks]

Not sure that appliances aren't much different than adding more and more complexity to cars, profit seeking, and the consumer paying through the nose to the point that more than one young person is saying they can't afford to get a start in life.

 

[ultrarunner]

Not sure that appliances aren't much different than adding more and more complexity to cars, profit seeking, and the consumer paying through the nose to the point that more than one young person is saying they can't afford to get a start in life.

I do believe the quest for efficiency and hitting the numbers has affected reliability and performance not energy related.

Over the long run bugs tend to get worked out but it sucks for those with lemons and little recourse along the way.

How else can it be explained the longevity of older less efficient appliances?

 

[2manyrocks]

Used to be that building quality meant building brand loyalty for the long term. Then the folks bent on squeezing profits out of everything figured they could exploit that brand loyalty by buying up the brand names and building these brands cheaply so they don't last as long.

Consolidation decreased competition so the consumer isn't left with many choices if Brands X, Y and Z are nothing but brand names owned and run by the same company.

 

[ultrarunner]

I’ve moved a lot of appliances and the older ones are like tanks…

New ones much lighter making it less costly to ship no doubt.

If it’s not reliable and costs more to fix than buy does it really matter how little electricity used?

Maybe how lifetime electric consumption comes in so low because if it’s broken how much electricity is used?

The LG refrigerator fiasco left a bad taste for those burned…

 

[ponytug]

Not sure that appliances aren't much different than adding more and more complexity to cars, profit seeking, and the consumer paying through the nose to the point that more than one young person is saying they can't afford to get a start in life.

Whatever the thing is that puts folks on to buying "in things" I missed out on. I see lots of folks living well beyond their means and then complaining about it. I've got one relative who comes to mind. She "has to have" the latest and greatest whatever. She's always broke and complaining about life being unfair. As far as I can tell she's basically miffed that she wasn't born the Queen of England, but that's her problem.

There's always buying a used, oldie, but goodie. Most independent appliance stores have appliances all repaired and ready to go, some with warranties. I had a friend who made a living hauling away old appliances, and repairing those that were fixable, and selling them. When vintage stoves and refrigerators became "in" he did really well.

When I was starting out, I liked buying and having older items. They were easy to service and the parts weren't expensive, and it made me feel good to keep something going. I can remember buying a used kitchen aide for $1.5 and spending another $2.97 on a speed control board to bring it back to new. We had that for decades. My best toaster is over 100 years old, fast, accurate, and reproducible. My drill press is over 80 years old, if you don't count the VFD that I added.

Much as I would love to have a 1920's GE vintage sulfur hexafluoride refrigerator, with the top mounted compressor, I will say that refrigerators, washers, dryers, and even electric (induction) stoves have become much, much more energy efficient over the years. Cost/yr of ownership can be something to pay attention to... A Sub-Zero would never pencil out for me if I bought it new, even some of the ultra high efficiency models aimed at the off grid and marine markets don't pencil out here.

All the best,

Peter

 

[2manyrocks]

In the back of my mind, I was thinking about young people who work and would like to own their own home, but home prices went up 40% since 2019 but their wages did not keep pace (not to mention the cost of insurance and property taxes). It wasn't that long ago that basic appliances weren't this expensive and the brand names were reliable.

Used appliances are a great idea for the OP. I bought my mother's refrigerator used from a repair shop about 1998. It's still running with no problems.

 

[ultrarunner]

Whatever the thing is that puts folks on to buying "in things" I missed out on. I see lots of folks living well beyond their means and then complaining about it. I've got one relative who comes to mind. She "has to have" the latest and greatest whatever. She's always broke and complaining about life being unfair. As far as I can tell she's basically miffed that she wasn't born the Queen of England, but that's her problem.

There's always buying a used, oldie, but goodie. Most independent appliance stores have anppliances all repaired and ready to go, some with warranties. I had a friend who made a living hauling away old appliances, and repairing those that were fixable, and selling them. When vintage stoves and refrigerators became "in" he did really well.

When I was starting out, I liked buying and having older items. They were easy to service and the parts weren't expensive, and it made me feel good to keep something going. I can remember buying a used kitchen aide for $1.5 and spending another $2.97 on a speed control board to bring it back to new. We had that for decades. My best toaster is over 100 years old, fast, accurate, and reproducible. My drill press is over 80 years old, if you don't count the VFD that I added.

Much as I would love to have a 1920's GE vintage sulfur hexafluoride refrigerator, with the top mounted compressor, I will say that refrigerators, washers, dryers, and even electric (induction) stoves have become much, much more energy efficient over the years. Cost/yr of ownership can be something to pay attention to... A Sub-Zero would never pencil out for me if I bought it new, even some of the ultra high efficiency models aimed at the off grid and marine markets don't pencil out here.

All the best,

Peter
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Whatever the thing is that puts folks on to buying "in things" I missed out on. I see lots of folks living well beyond their means and then complaining about it. I've got one relative who comes to mind. She "has to have" the latest and greatest whatever. She's always broke and complaining about life being unfair. As far as I can tell she's basically miffed that she wasn't born the Queen of England, but that's her problem.

There's always buying a used, oldie, but goodie. Most independent appliance stores have anppliances all repaired and ready to go, some with warranties. I had a friend who made a living hauling away old appliances, and repairing those that were fixable, and selling them. When vintage stoves and refrigerators became "in" he did really well.

When I was starting out, I liked buying and having older items. They were easy to service and the parts weren't expensive, and it made me feel good to keep something going. I can remember buying a used kitchen aide for $1.5 and spending another $2.97 on a speed control board to bring it back to new. We had that for decades. My best toaster is over 100 years old, fast, accurate, and reproducible. My drill press is over 80 years old, if you don't count the VFD that I added.

Much as I would love to have a 1920's GE vintage sulfur hexafluoride refrigerator, with the top mounted compressor, I will say that refrigerators, washers, dryers, and even electric (induction) stoves have become much, much more energy efficient over the years. Cost/yr of ownership can be something to pay attention to... A Sub-Zero would never pencil out for me if I bought it new, even some of the ultra high efficiency models aimed at the off grid and marine markets don't pencil out here.

All the best,

Peter
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Whatever the thing is that puts folks on to buying "in things" I missed out on. I see lots of folks living well beyond their means and then complaining about it. I've got one relative who comes to mind. She "has to have" the latest and greatest whatever. She's always broke and complaining about life being unfair. As far as I can tell she's basically miffed that she wasn't born the Queen of England, but that's her problem.

There's always buying a used, oldie, but goodie. Most independent appliance stores have anppliances all repaired and ready to go, some with warranties. I had a friend who made a living hauling away old appliances, and repairing those that were fixable, and selling them. When vintage stoves and refrigerators became "in" he did really well.

When I was starting out, I liked buying and having older items. They were easy to service and the parts weren't expensive, and it made me feel good to keep something going. I can remember buying a used kitchen aide for $1.5 and spending another $2.97 on a speed control board to bring it back to new. We had that for decades. My best toaster is over 100 years old, fast, accurate, and reproducible. My drill press is over 80 years old, if you don't count the VFD that I added.

Much as I would love to have a 1920's GE vintage sulfur hexafluoride refrigerator, with the top mounted compressor, I will say that refrigerators, washers, dryers, and even electric (induction) stoves have become much, much more energy efficient over the years. Cost/yr of ownership can be something to pay attention to... A Sub-Zero would never pencil out for me if I bought it new, even some of the ultra high efficiency models aimed at the off grid and marine markets don't pencil out here.

All the best,

Peter

My friend has one in his garage to keep the beer cold…

That refrigerator always a conversation starter.

It starts with a little shake and rattle and keeps working and he has done nothing to it… came from his grandmothers place.

I missed one set out for bulky pickup and it looked good but no way to pick up at the moment.

 

[ultrarunner]

In the back of my mind, I was thinking about young people who work and would like to own their own home, but home prices went up 40% since 2019 but their wages did not keep pace (not to mention the cost of insurance and property taxes). It wasn't that long ago that basic appliances weren't this expensive and the brand names were reliable.

Used appliances are a great idea for the OP. I bought my mother's refrigerator used from a repair shop about 1998. It's still running with no problems.

A lot of good finds free set out for bulky pickup…

Honda Mower, Echo Trimmers, Sony Flat Screen (Put Out because they bought a bigger LG)

Never scored a refrigerator but did score on like new Kenmore 90 series washer dryer… they wanted energy saver Neptune.

 

[2manyrocks]

Setting aside the actual broadcast content, at least today's TV's have better picture quality and reliability compared to 1950's vacuum tube models. There used to be a tube tester in the neighborhood grocery store.

 

[HawkinsHollow]

Used appliances are a great idea for the OP. I bought my mother's refrigerator used from a repair shop about 1998. It's still running with no problems.

I am not one of those guys who needs the best and newest. I LOVE a good FB marketplace score or curb find more than most of you I am sure.

That being said, I am NOT putting a bunch of used mismatched appliances in my newly remodeled house/addition that I am going to be spending $100K+ on and many $10's of thousands more in sweat equity. Sorry!

 

[ultrarunner]

I am not one of those guys who needs the best and newest. I LOVE a good FB marketplace score or curb find more than most of you I am sure.

That being said, I am NOT putting a bunch of used mismatched appliances in my newly remodeled house/addition that I am going to be spending $100K+ on and many $10's of thousands more in sweat equity. Sorry!

That is the wonderful thing because without those opting for new high end their wouldn’t be give aways.

When I bought the owner left all appliances… otherwise no way would I have SubZero, Thermador, Wolf, etc… stainless theme.

 

[2manyrocks]

Where else are you going to find authentic vintage harvest gold or avocado green plus shag carpet and lava lamps

 

[Ricn]

Maybe we beat the issues by investing in the companies that are screwing us, then buy new appliances more often with the profits.