EV owners of today and tomorrow

[DarkBlack]

No, I would just keep calling you an ignorant fool.

Thank you.
Coming from someone who thinks the earth is flat makes that a humorous compliment

 

[DarkBlack]

You need to learn a bit of physics and electrical engineering motor theory.

You funny guy.

Wireless battery car charging is progressing worldwide, by innovation from many different companies. Just because you don’t understand the technology, doesn’t mean it isn’t happening. Just because your current Tesla didn’t come with the capability doesn’t mean it isn’t happening.
When it eventually gets implemented in roadways, it’ll severely reduce the massive battery size, and earth destroying materials needed to make them.
You’ll be the horse and buggy guy clinging on to your old giant battery technology car, hooking it up to your cable

 

[Grumpycat]

You funny guy.

You have no idea.

Wireless battery car charging is progressing worldwide, by innovation from many different companies.

Yes, along with solid state batteries which will accept 100 kWh in 5 minutes, and the infamous Hydrogen Highway.

Inductive EV charging thrives where there is generous government funding.

The physics of the inductive pickup, the transmitter, and the switching hardware results in a heavy, stationary, and expensive "solution" for a lazy bum who can't spend 15 seconds to connect/disconnect a connector.

Just because you don’t understand the technology, doesn’t mean it isn’t happening.

But I do understand the technology. And I have a pretty good understanding of government-think having worked most of my career as a defense contractor.

When it eventually gets implemented in roadways, it’ll severely reduce the massive battery size, and earth destroying materials needed to make them.

Right! You think you could run just one wire the length of the road and make this happen? One needs lots and lots of wire and the road has to be lined with lots of high power electronics. Millions of dollars per mile.

Oh, and then there is the billing for power consumed. And for the capital expense of building the Electric Highway.

You’ll be the horse and buggy guy clinging on to your old giant battery technology car, hooking it up to your cable

And laughing at you the whole way. Yup, I'm a funny guy!

 

[Runner]

 

[DarkBlack]

Inductive EV charging thrives where there is generous government funding.

Yes indeed… Just like the entire EV market.

expensive "solution" for a lazy bum who can't spend 15 seconds to connect/disconnect

I already explained yesterday, I have no open garage space and the car is my wife’s, and she doesn’t want to deal with it in the dark rain and snow late at night.
I don’t blame her either.

Don’t be such a judgmental tool.
Everyone’s situation , needs and desires for given comforts are different.

 

[Fixastuff]

Yes indeed… Just like the entire EV market.



I already explained yesterday, I have no open garage space and the car is my wife’s, and she doesn’t want to dealing with it in the dark rain and snow late at night.

Don’t be such a judgmental tool.
Everyone’s situation and needs and desires are different.

Would you not be willing to plug in the car for your wife in those situations?

 

[DarkBlack]

Would you not be willing to plug in the car for your wife in those situations?

Possibly… If I was there at the time.

I was waiting for grump or trad to
suggest I build another garage.

But then, her 36 mpg car is cheaper than electric charging here, so it’s all just for internet conversation

 

[WinterDeere]

I’d say, around 100.00% of gas stations have a canopy here. Your profile says Philly. I did a quick google satellite view of Philly. Every single gasoline station has a protective canopy.

I'm in the rural 'burbs about 30 miles north of center city. We have 7 stations in my usual weekly driving circle, 4 of which have canopies and 3 which are older service stations which do not have canopies. Lots of old 2-bay service stations around here, all of which once had gas pumps, about half of which still retain them.

Owning a sedan that gets 12mpg, is a very unusual, and for most of the general public, a very undesirable vehicle with such bad efficiency. Your other vehicle being a truck (doesn’t equate to a battery car capability) with rather poor 14 mpg is your other benchmark.

Yes, I know that's unusual. And I think it's as much the driver as the vehicle, as my wife routinely gets 50% better mileage than me when we trade vehicles for a few days or a week. It takes a certain amount of energy to accelerate 5000 lb. of steel from 0 to 60 mph in a given time or distance, your patience with that task likely dictating the fuel usage, much more than relatively minor differences in engine efficiency.

...saying you should simply trade in your 12 mpg sedan for 36 mpg car and cut your fueling time to 1/3’d the time

Find me a 500 hp car that gets 36 mpg, and we can talk!

You’re making your argument, with the erroneous presumption that everyone has the same house, property layout, work, and driving schedule as you imagine for yourself.

Probably true. I think we can all be guilty of that sometimes, assuming our situation is common or normal.

Once a week plug in?
Try that working 12 hour shifts at a job that has a long distance drive.

Again, assuming others habits and schedule reflect my own. Some may even need to charge daily, I guess comparing average yearly mileage to average EV range could help us settle that debate.

But that really wasn't the main point of my post, which is that plugging a vehicle in at home and letting it refuel while you sleep is likely easier than driving to a gas station, for many or most buyers of new vehicles... even those parking outside of their garage. This was based on the statistics of 90 - 93% of new vehicle buyers being homeowners, more than how many days they need to plug in a cord.

 

[Fixastuff]

Possibly… If I was there at the time.

I was waiting for grump or trad to
suggest I build another garage.

But then, her 36 mpg car is cheaper than electric charging here, so it’s all just for internet conversation

Na they’ll just suggest a simple geodesic dome made of solar panels to cover your entire property.

 

[Dftodd]

Would you not be willing to plug in the car for your wife in those situations?

My wife's on her own during a rain storm around here. We rarely get a nice soaking or a drizzle.

We get a whole lake dumped on us in seconds. When it opens up, you bail and hope your spouse is standing by the door to drag you inside