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It's amazing, really, that people did get around on bias ply tires and with 2WD decades ago.

It's almost as if they knew how to drive.
And you used your common sense.
Roads are bad, keep your backside at home.
Not I have 4 wheel drive I can go anywhere, anytime.
 
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We had a vw bug when I was a kid, I think a 72.
It was actually pretty good in the snow with the engine in the rear, and it was always slow.
But clearance could be an issue, and we got stuck going up the hill to my uncles house more than once. We knew to pack small easy to carry overnight bags and trudge up the mile or so until we got to the house.

Most exciting trip was coming the back way after an ice storm with my other uncles granada.
We would drive up a little hill, on the way down slowly go off the road, hop out push the car back onto the road and repeat on the next little hill.
Took us an hour to go about 5 miles, but it was fun for us kids to slide the car back on the road.
Talk about taking a negative and making it a positive.
Had to be ice 4-5" thick on the road for a few months that year.
 
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When I got California in 1982 my cousins told me about the slickness of the freeways in the winter from the rain and all the

oil droppings throughout the year.
Here it's leaves. They drop all thru September and October, and any rainstorm in October/November turns our roads into a messy slurry of pulverized wet leaf material. I still remember being a young and impatient driver, and sliding thru more than one stop sign due to wet leaves on the road, until I learned to treat them almost like driving on snow.

PA has a lot of deciduous trees, mostly oak, walnut, and maple in this corner of the state.
 
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And you used your common sense.
Roads are bad, keep your backside at home.
Not I have 4 wheel drive I can go anywhere, anytime.
You guys are funny. Growing up in MN winter roads are a way of life. You learn early, playing around whenever you can in slick parking lots and pushing your limits on the roads until you find them. When the bad conditions happen you go about normal life but just taking it easy. We don't have mountains here so inclines aren't a big factor, which surely can give you some challenges. I've driven on a bunch of mountain roads in the winter going snowmobiling out west and there is a pucker factor at times. If MN was mountainous I'd probably have a different theory.
 
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When I got out of the Air Force and went to work in the Detroit area. Back then everything was 2 wheel drive. People had

a bad memory, when the first snow hit it was nothing to see 15-20 cars in the ditch on the freeway. My 2nd time working in

Detroit many vehicle were 4x4 or all wheel drive with traction control.
 
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When I got out of the Air Force and went to work in the Detroit area. Back then everything was 2 wheel drive. People had

a bad memory, when the first snow hit it was nothing to see 15-20 cars in the ditch on the freeway. My 2nd time working in

Detroit many vehicle were 4x4 or all wheel drive with traction control.
And yet, still people off the road all over the place in vehicles that "in the old days" you wouldn't think you could get stuck....
 
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This has nothing to do with snow and ice, but yesterday I was coming home from grocery shopping with 2018 Chevy

pickup with nice daytime running lights. A black pickup, might have been a Chevy was in my lane passing a car as I

met him. I had to go on the shoulder at 60 mph to avoid a head on. I'm not sure if they were stupid or blind.
 
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You guys are funny. Growing up in MN winter roads are a way of life. You learn early, playing around whenever you can in slick parking lots and pushing your limits on the roads until you find them. When the bad conditions happen you go about normal life but just taking it easy.
Yeah this is how it used to feel in southern Michigan, too. We'd often have continuous frozen roads and accumulating snowpack from ~ new years until March. So everyone had to know how to navigate slippery roads daily.
But more recent winters? Any snow we get just melts within a week. People are losing their resilience and experience in winter driving - it can happen quick.
 
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I had a new '73 Gremlin with a V8 and 3 speed on the floor.
During the winter we seldom used first gear, the rear tires would spin to easily especially on ice.
 

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