Trickle battery charger

   / Trickle battery charger #52  
All flooded cell batteries produce lead sulfate without exception and that is why a quality battery has it's plates spaced off the bottom of the case because the flaked off lead sulfate will drop to the bottom of the battery case and over time, will contact the bottom of the plates and short them out (lead sulfate conducts electricity). I don't get the 'desulfation' deal at all. All flooded cell batteries will eventually expire from it (lead sulfate shorting). What determines that is only the spacing of the plates from the floor of the case. The best way to avoid it is, replace the battery in a timely manner which is something most people don't do until they fail. Myself, I 'rotate' my starting batteries every 4-5 years maximum. Don't matter if they load test good or not because the 'end of life' can come at a bad time. It's also a falsehood the flooded cell batteries fail more in cold weather more than hot weather. The only reason why they fail in cold weather is the cranking amps demanded by a cold engine is much greater than during warm weather and a battery on it's last legs in cold weather will fail. They fail in warm weather as well.

Batteries have to be the most neglected part of any engine driven equipment.
 
   / Trickle battery charger #53  
Why don't I watch You Tube? Primarily because of all the misinformation found there, and also because it's time consuming.
This is what stuck out to me. Sorry you’re feeling all defensive.
I use You-Tube all the time. It’s a great source of free music, and videos. Millions and millions of videos that are helpful and/or just plain entertaining.
If you feel “the motor oil geek ” is the only thing on there worth watching, that’s your choice. I’m not here to criticize it.
Your wording though, certainly suggests it’s mostly “all the” misinformation..as I questioned…

So what’s your helpful video website, if it’s not You-Tube?
 
   / Trickle battery charger #54  
I plugged one of my battery tenders up to my dad’s x380. I’ve been starting it every so often this past year. Last time I was there, the battery was dead. So I charged it with my regular charger, then put the tender on. It started right up today.
 
   / Trickle battery charger #55  
I have some incredibly cheap half amp maintainers that I keep on batteries for overhead crane, quad and door opener in unheated storage shelter on farm. 5 years running 24 x 7 and no problems. I keep the 24V batteries in my D5H plugged into a NOCO smart charger all winter and much of summer and works like a damn. Evern bought a 48 volt forklift last year and opened center tie and another 24V NOCO have at it and found I had a perfectly good battery in the thing! (so charger so good I will not scrap it for parts).

IMHO just about any smart charger SHOULD do a good job when constantly on line. If you are worried about it run volts and amps on a decent meter to see what it is doing. The genuinely good ones use a pulsed signal to avoid or even reverse sulfation.
 
   / Trickle battery charger #56  
This is what stuck out to me. Sorry you’re feeling all defensive.
I use You-Tube all the time. It’s a great source of free music, and videos. Millions and millions of videos that are helpful and/or just plain entertaining.
If you feel “the motor oil geek ” is the only thing on there worth watching, that’s your choice. I’m not here to criticize it.
Your wording though, certainly suggests it’s mostly “all the” misinformation..as I questioned…

So what’s your helpful video website, if it’s not You-Tube?
I have not been on any video web site other than You Tube that I know of, and have no doubt that there's entertaining and helpful videos on You Tube, but it's just not for me. And there's been countless times when somebody says "but this guy on You Tube says..." and it's complete nonsense. Guess I have become allergic to the You Tube phenomena.

I get to listen to music when driving or in the M6040 and have often wondered how people find time to make all the videos out there (know about those through my girlfriend) and really question how so many have time to watch them.

In my case, I'm lucky if I get three of the most important 10 things on the list done in a day. If I need to find out about some subject I generally use Google and read what seems relevant, ideally from reliable sources, or call somebody that knows the subject.

That could change if I become bedridden, but first I'd go through the overflowing DVR and watch things I recorded for a reason.
 
   / Trickle battery charger #57  
So the internet (what you are calling Google) is larger than just YouTube... yet you are able to sort between all the good and bad information there??? Yet you ignore the smaller subset of YouTube? Pretty sure I've seen you post your opinion on this before.

Like everything, there is good/bad/entertainment/etc to be found in every medium available (not just internet sources).
 
   / Trickle battery charger #58  
So the internet (what you are calling Google) is larger than just YouTube... yet you are able to sort between all the good and bad information there??? Yet you ignore the smaller subset of YouTube? Pretty sure I've seen you post your opinion on this before.

Like everything, there is good/bad/entertainment/etc to be found in every medium available (not just internet sources).
this is like the guy about reddit being a cesspool. Anything can be a cesspool. You decide if your going to wade into that particular water.

what's even funnier, is he's on this forum, where there is a current active thread about whether the earth is flat....

I find both youtube and reddit to be incredibly helpful. Like with everything including chatgpt, trust but verify is common sense.
 
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   / Trickle battery charger #59  
So the internet (what you are calling Google) is larger than just YouTube... yet you are able to sort between all the good and bad information there??? Yet you ignore the smaller subset of YouTube? Pretty sure I've seen you post your opinion on this before.

Like everything, there is good/bad/entertainment/etc to be found in every medium available (not just internet sources).
Well, Google is a small part of the internet and I don't consider the two interchangeable. There are other ways to find information, including on the internet, but I happened to mention the well known Google.

As mentioned earlier, to me You Tube is a time consuming way to get information, preferring instead written text and numbers, with diagrams or schematics if needed. Or, in cases where I have good industry contacts, a phone call works great.

Regardless of how the information is found and presented, it should obviously still not be taken as gospel. That's where prior knowledge, common sense, etc. comes in.

Yes, lots of people like and use You Tube, but I don't. Much like that a certain artist can be extremely popular doesn't mean that I like what they produce. Thankfully, this is America and I don't have to like You Tube, no matter how many think that I should.
 
   / Trickle battery charger #60  
SNIP

Also, straight desulfation units such as Canadus and PulseTech can't possibly raise the voltage in a battery since they are powered by it.
Raising the voltages in the circuits in a battery powered device is easy electrically. Some processes just work better at higher voltages. So the input voltage is not the limit.
 

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