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[sd455dan]

What a way to go.

Fiery Tesla Crash Traps And Kills Four After Electric Doors Couldn't Open - Jalopnik

Four people were killed in a fire after a Tesla Model Y lost control and hit a pillar in Toronto last month. The four people were reportedly unable to open the doors of the car after it caught fire and a fifth passenger only survived the crash after onlookers smashed a window and dragged them...

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That really does Suck.

But lets also consider: the driver was driving at a very high rate of speed and apparently hit a concrete pillar at speed.



Hitting a large concrete structure (appears to be the vertical support column for the 2 story elevated hiway) at high speed and crushing the front of the car into a 1/3 of its normal width says a lot. That car looks as bad or worse than the Y that went off that 250 foot cliff in California

What I find odd is people who have never been in a Tesla Always grab the manual door releases in my car.


I don't believe there is any electrical needed to get the doors to open ...

"Unless the locks are fully electric and were somehow still locked/ latched after the impact making the manual door releases useless?


IF so Tesla needs to fix that Pronto and this Is a real tragedy.

I did notice my car started locking the doors once in motion after an update a few weeks back.


I am going to test the manual handles with the doors electrically locked just to see if I hear a solenoid click.


Rain and snow today and I let the FSD with newest update drive to town and each destination then home. It did still want to turn into the neighbors driveway but drove through the construction zone at 35 MPH and needed only one other intervention because the car was speeding. ( I need to change the speed settings to not allow this) FSD is improving. But still believe the car needs more than a vision system in inclement weather.

Best winter car I have ever owned.

My condolences to the people that perished and their families. If this was a problem with the car I hope Tesla learns from this unfortunate loss of life ending.

 

[wsc9tt]

I am going to test the manual handles with the doors electrically locked just to see if I hear a solenoid click.

The point is that a Model Y has manual door releases for the front doors, but not in the back seat.
The back seat has a complicated mechanism to access the manual door release.

https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/modely/en_us/GUID-AAD769C7-88A3-4695-987E-0E00025F64E0.html

And notice what Tesla says in the manual: "Not all Model Y vehicles are equipped with a manual release for the rear doors."

Back to this crash, it is somewhat amazing that all 5 people survived the highspeed impact with concrete. And while the people in the front had a release they didn't used it.

The other problem with modern cars (and not just Tesla) is that you can't break the laminated glass in the side windows. Not even with one of those "Window braking tools". So it is hard for people outside to get in.

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

I read the other day the Teslas have a higher, or highest accident fatality rate, basically due to performance capabilities.

 

[WinterDeere]

I read the other day the Teslas have a higher, or highest accident fatality rate, basically due to performance capabilities.

This isn't surprising at all, in fact I remember writing about it several years ago, although it might have been on another forum. You're basically turning cars with low-speed acceleration comparable to 700 hp or even 1000 hp ICE's over to the general non-enthusiast public. Accidents are almost inevitable, or so I would think.

Would you let your inexperienced kid drive a Challenger Hellcat or a Corvette ZR1? Then why a Model 3P?

My cousin bought a model 3 dual motor at the same time I bought a Charger SRT 392. We traded cars one day, and after driving it, I'm pretty sure his lowly model 3 would take my SRT right off the line... at least up to 30 mph. They felt pretty equal in the 30 - 60 mph range, but that's a 500 hp ICE car, to which we're comparing.

The Tesla's do seem to at least have a tamer personality, the pedal isn't quite so sensitive, and with AWD they're less likely to light up the tires and fishtail their way off the line. My wife asked my cousin how he liked the SRT, when he returned with it. He said one word, "terrifying".

 

[Grumpycat]

What I find odd is people who have never been in a Tesla Always grab the manual door releases in my car.

Ditto. I had this conversation with a friend several times and it didn't stick until after repeated use of the manual latch and his shout, "I don't see what difference it makes, why did they put it there if I am not to use it?" "First and foremost, I repeatedly told you not to use it. That should be enough. Is my car, my rules." He was banned from riding in my Tesla. Even had his phone enabled as a key. Past tense.

I am going to test the manual handles with the doors electrically locked just to see if I hear a solenoid click.

I don't know if I hear a click, but I do see the door open.

My condolences to the people that perished and their families. If this was a problem with the car I hope Tesla learns from this unfortunate loss of life ending.

I forget, what was there for Tesla to learn about a high speed crash into a concrete barrier?

 

[tradosaurus]

I read the other day the Teslas have a higher, or highest accident fatality rate, basically due to performance capabilities.

Tesla FSD lowest rate

"Figures don't lie, but liars figure,"

 

[tradosaurus]

With Elon Musk working for Trump as the co-head of the newly created Dept. of Government Efficiency, expect more hit pieces on Tesla.

 

[WinterDeere]

With Elon Musk working for Trump as the co-head of the newly created Dept. of Government Efficiency, expect more hit pieces on Tesla.

I'm real interested to see what he can do here. But did that department actually get funded? Even if Elon agrees to work without salary, which he could easily do, an entire new department of personnel and facilities needs to go into the budget, to make this happen. With an R-congress, I suspect it will get funding, but last I heard that had not happened, yet.

 

[tradosaurus]

I'm real interested to see what he can do here. But did that department actually get funded? Even if Elon agrees to work without salary, which he could easily do, an entire new department of personnel and facilities needs to go into the budget, to make this happen. With an R-congress, I suspect it will get funding, but last I heard that had not happened, yet.

I'm not sure anything will happen until after Trump takes office.

As an employee of the Fed Gov't, you could offer a $100k buyout and easily retire at least 20% of employees. I think Elon suggested giving those getting laid off a 2 year severance package and it would still save the gov't money over the next 4 years.
Heck, I'll take the 2 years severance and go.

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

Tesla FSD lowest rate

"Figures don't lie, but liars figure,"

The fatality rate is higher. Reading comprehension is not your strong suit, is it?