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[ponytug]

The fatality rate is higher. Reading comprehension is not your strong suit, is it?

Which fatality rate is higher? Average US? 1.53/MM miles vs FSD of 0.13/MM miles? The report has FSD at almost one twelfth of the US average.

I'm not saying that there might be other things about FSD drivers that might lower the rate (e.g. fewer teenage drivers would cause those average driver death rates by a chunk, last time that I looked, due to factors like less experience, and often working evenings, a time when all drivers have higher rates of driving deaths).

All the best,

Peter

 

[sd455dan]

Ditto. I had this conversation with a friend several times and it didn't stick until after repeated use of the manual latch and his shout, "I don't see what difference it makes, why did they put it there if I am not to use it?" "First and foremost, I repeatedly told you not to use it. That should be enough. Is my car, my rules." He was banned from riding in my Tesla. Even had his phone enabled as a key. Past tense.


I don't know if I hear a click, but I do see the door open.


I forget, what was there for Tesla to learn about a high speed crash into a concrete barrier?

Not much actually Tesla upped the safety factor on partial semi trailer thruogh A pillar crashes well beyond other manufacturers.

The only thing they might learn is if an instantaneous total loss of power can leave an electric lock engaged.

My Guess is this was the first question before the cars were designed and the occupants panicked and did not use the manual releases. I would hope Tesla made sure of manual door opening with complete loss of power, this from day one.

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

https://www.motortrend.com/news/deadliest-car-brand-in-america/

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

More Theories On Why Teslas Have The Highest Fatality Rate - CleanTechnica

Sign up for daily news updates from CleanTechnica on email. Or follow us on Google News! I was surprised the other day to see that Tesla drivers were more likely to be in fatal car crashes than drivers of any other auto brand. The results are based on US data, ... [continued]

cleantechnica.com

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

Car Brands With Most Accidents: 5 Automakers That Crash in 2024 | SmartFinancial

The top five car brands with the most accidents are Tesla, Ram, Subaru, Mazda and Lexus. Mitsubishi has the individual model with the most deadly crashes.

smartfinancial.com

 

[Grumpycat]

Surprised a Subaru WRX or Dodge Challenger is not the most accident prone.

 

[ponytug]

https://www.motortrend.com/news/deadliest-car-brand-in-america/

Thanks for sharing that. I found the data interesting, although I have to say that the numbers Motor Trend article are just off, as in weirdly off. I'm not sure what happened, but I think that there was a slip up in data somewhere between iSeeCars and the author.

The data quoted is from iSeeCars, and here is their actual data;

The 23 Most Dangerous Cars On The Road - iSeeCars.com

The fatal accident rate is now 2.8 per billion miles and the Hyundai Venue is the car with the highest fatal accident rate, while Tesla has the highest...

www.iseecars.com

I'm at a loss to explain the differences between that table and the MotorTrend article.

I do like the data, and frankly, it seems to confirm my experience here, where post Covid drivers just don't seem to be driving as well as they were pre-Covid, and I would include myself in that. I didn't drive much at all for a couple years. Now I just don't drive that much, and I can tell that I'm not as good as I remember being. (I would readily admit that it also could be that my memory is shot, too, so who really knows?)

All the best,

Peter

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

Thanks for sharing that. I found the data interesting, although I have to say that the numbers Motor Trend article are just off, as in weirdly off. I'm not sure what happened, but I think that there was a slip up in data somewhere between iSeeCars and the author.

The data quoted is from iSeeCars, and here is their actual data;

The 23 Most Dangerous Cars On The Road - iSeeCars.com

The fatal accident rate is now 2.8 per billion miles and the Hyundai Venue is the car with the highest fatal accident rate, while Tesla has the highest...

www.iseecars.com

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I'm at a loss to explain the differences between that table and the MotorTrend article.

I do like the data, and frankly, it seems to confirm my experience here, where post Covid drivers just don't seem to be driving as well as they were pre-Covid, and I would include myself in that. I didn't drive much at all for a couple years. Now I just don't drive that much, and I can tell that I'm not as good as I remember being. (I would readily admit that it also could be that my memory is shot, too, so who really knows?)

All the best,

Peter

Motor Trend said that TESLA as a manufacturer has the highest fatality rate, NOT that a SINGLE one of their cars had the highest rate. That may be the difference.

 

[WinterDeere]

Surprised a Subaru WRX or Dodge Challenger is not the most accident prone.

I initially thought the same, but you'd probably have to break those down by trim package, to really highlight that effect. Using the Challenger as an example, they made 30,000 SXT's every year, but only 3,000 Hellcats. You're more likely to kill yourself falling off the toilet, than by excess speed in an SXT.

 

[DarkBlack]

Thanks for sharing that. I found the data interesting, although I have to say that the numbers Motor Trend article are just off, as in weirdly off. I'm not sure what happened, but I think that there was a slip up in data somewhere between iSeeCars and the author.

The IseeCars article states exactly what Motor Trend quoted. Tesla is the most dangerous overall brand at 5.6
I don’t see a data slip up you’re referring to.