Tractors and (upcoming) tariffs?

[rScotty]

That’s more like what I am seeing. I have some accounts up as high as 35%, most in the upper 20’s. Heck even gold is up like 29%.
That is great, but inflation steals away investment money.

There is inflation and there is the cost of consumer goods. Very different things - inflation steals away money while it is invested, and consumer prices steal it away when it is spent. But both steal it away.

Balancing a 30% increase - or any increase - in investment value requires that production of everything from wheat, oil, education, tractors, goods, and housing has to increase by more than that much. And also requires that consumers are willing to pay those higher prices.

That's probably not going to happen. So what happens then?

rScotty

 

[ultrarunner]

The world is changing…

After WWII America alone had more wealth than the rest of the world.

Fast forward and the world is energy dependent and the underlying motive is often tied to oil…

Globalism let’s any nation trade with any other in simple terms…

The American Navy is really the only Blue Water Navy of size in the world and the defacto policeman of the world.

Americans I feel are tired of this and what may be coming is regionalism… North America for us.

For this to work America has to rebuild its industrial base…

We have gone decades with out much happening and now it appears we are at the end of that long cycle.

Tariffs are part of that reset…

Japan saw this coming and opted to go to its customer base building factories both to build a beach head and also to minimize their own population decline.

I don’t see the same for China and Russia… unless they trade to each other…

 

[bvanek]

For this to work America has to rebuild its industrial base…

We have gone decades with out much happening and now it appears we are at the end of that long cycle.

Tariffs are part of that reset…

I agree

the Monroe Doctrine? Those founding fathers had some pretty good insight on how to form and keep America's new found identity viable. Regional security being a key to preserving democratic republics in the region. Industry, innovation and free enterprise, eventually provided both the military strength and the economic stability to make sure it was not lost. Mexico and Canada benefited from this as they gained a strong regional support partner in the middle. They should unite with us on terms equitable to both sides.

 

[jyoutz]

I agree

the Monroe Doctrine? Those founding fathers had some pretty good insight on how to form and keep America's new found identity viable. Regional security being a key to preserving democratic republics in the region. Industry, innovation and free enterprise, eventually provided both the military strength and the economic stability to make sure it was not lost. Mexico and Canada benefited from this as they gained a strong regional support partner in the middle. They should unite with us on terms equitable to both sides.

U.S. manufacturing is already very integrated with Mexico and Canada. We need to build on this.

 

[5030]

And also requires that consumers are willing to pay those higher prices.

Already happening Scotty and has been for a while now. You look ar your grocery bill lately or how about the cost if new tractors or anything consumer oriented.

We are going to have to bear some pain before it even thinks about getting better. We have had almost 4 years of digressive leadership but there is a new sheriff in town now. Someone who knows how things work but it will take some time to come around. Our last leader didn't no anything, except how to spend money that wasn't his and is continuing to do so and will I predict right up to January 20th when he's 'fired'.

 

[Hay Dude]

The world is changing…

After WWII American alone had more wealth than the rest of the world.

Fast forward and the world is energy dependent and the underlying motive is often tied to oil…

Globalism let’s any nation trade with any other in simple terms…

The American Navy is really the only Blue Water Navy of size in the world and the defacto policeman of the world.

American’s I feel are tired of this and what may be coming is regionalism… North America for us.

For this to work America has to rebuild its industrial base…

We have gone decades with out much happening and now it appears we are at the end of that long cycle.

Tariffs are part of that reset…

Japan saw this coming and opted to go to its customer base building factories both to build a beach head and also to minimize their own population decline.

I don’t see the same for China and Russia… unless they trade to each other…

I fear in the next war the surface Navy(s) will go the way of the horse in the beginning of WW-2.
Especially the aircraft carrier.

 

[square1]

I fear in the next war the surface Navy(s) will go the way of the horse in the beginning of WW-2.
Especially the aircraft carrier.

Hey, let's stick to tariffs & tractors please

 

[rScotty]

Already happening Scotty and has been for a while now. You look ar your grocery bill lately or how about the cost if new tractors or anything consumer oriented.

We are going to have to bear some pain before it even thinks about getting better. We have had almost 4 years of digressive leadership but there is a new sheriff in town now. Someone who knows how things work but it will take some time to come around. Our last leader didn't no anything, except how to spend money that wasn't his and is continuing to do so and will I predict right up to January 20th when he's 'fired'.

Well. I'm more into tractors than politics. But it doesn't take much arithmetic to see that almost half the voters think the last leader didn't do right, and the other half - give or take one or two percent - think they were lucky to have him do what was necessary to prevent even larger problems.

My own hope is that we are not able to tell which side called those leadership years correctly for at least another 4 years and hopefully much longer.

Because as long as we are still debating ifs, ands, buts, & possibilities, that means we haven't taken an irrevocable step in any one direction - which may be about as good as we can hope for in our democracy.

rScotty

 

[Hay Dude]

A little reminder of the period we just went through, and still are going through. This affects the buying power we have for tractors & equipment and money left over for our investments. So, even though it’s not as bad as the guys here that harken back to the Great Depression or the Carter era, it’s still pretty unreal. Auto insurance up 58%! Food up 22%. Energy up 29%.
Ain’t a person on this web page that doesn’t need a significant amount of all 3

 

[Duds13]

A little reminder of the period we just went through, and still are going through. This affects the buying power we have for tractors & equipment and money left over for our investments. So, even though it’s not as bad as the guys here that harken back to the Great Depression or the Carter era, it’s still pretty unreal. Auto insurance up 58%! Food up 22%. Energy up 29%.
Ain’t a person on this web page that doesn’t need a significant amount of all 3

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