Is the Cyber Truck a Flop?

   / Is the Cyber Truck a Flop? #162  
I'd add a third factor...overabundance of technology. It seems that every automaker thinks they have to install a dash that looks like a spaceship in EVs instead of something logical and simple to use. Not to say they aren't doing it with ICEs too, but they seem obligated to go over the top on EVs.

I'll give you the camera for lining up a hitch, but a for the rest of that stuff...meh. My truck has all that, never use it. Actually, even for normal backing up, I'll stick with mirrors/looking over my shoulder...just can't get the hang of backing straight with a camera.
Try backing up a set of B train doubles into a tight loading dock sometime...

A Trains have to be disconnected to back up, however B trains with a dolly can be backed up, hooked up.
 
   / Is the Cyber Truck a Flop? #164  
The Cybertruck is expensive, terrible as a truck or even a functional vehicle, and hideous to look at. Also its looks say "look at me! I spent a lot of money!" and I'm tired of people like that. OTOH I know a guy in Oregon who drives a lot for work and loves his Ford Lighting E-pickup. He's not hauling huge trailers but he's got various construction site tools he carries.
 
   / Is the Cyber Truck a Flop? #165  
You crazy dude. A modern 2500, 250 can conventional pull 16k plus, gooseneck # for them are way more. The old trucks look good but ain’t worth a crap as a working man’s truck.
Most truck buyers today are purchased as others said here not as a truck but as a status symbol. They're meant to impress others with all the gadgets. My personal truck is a '93 F150 4x4 4spd. 300-six. 206K miles. I have $2,400 in it. It doesn't impress anyone except our farrier who I pulled his diesel Ram 3500 crew cab loaded (10K#?) he got stuck in a ditch...uphill in the snow using granny gear. He forgot leaving parking brake on but dragged it out anyway.
I was talking about trucks besides, not towing capacity but for hauling junk.
Crazy?
To me it's crazy spending $100K-$150K either to haul groceries or tear up working/hauling.
A truck is a truck. To each his/her/their own.
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   / Is the Cyber Truck a Flop? #166  
Most truck buyers today are purchased as others said here not as a truck but as a status symbol. They're meant to impress others with all the gadgets. My personal truck is a '93 F150 4x4 4spd. 300-six. 206K miles. I have $2,400 in it. It doesn't impress anyone except our farrier who I pulled his diesel Ram 3500 crew cab loaded (10K#?) he got stuck in a ditch...uphill in the snow using granny gear. He forgot leaving parking brake on but dragged it out anyway.
I was talking about trucks besides, not towing capacity but for hauling junk.
Crazy?
To me it's crazy spending $100K-$150K either to haul groceries or tear up working/hauling.
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I agree with all of that.
 
   / Is the Cyber Truck a Flop? #167  
Most truck buyers today are purchased as others said here not as a truck but as a status symbol. They're meant to impress others with all the gadgets. My personal truck is a '93 F150 4x4 4spd. 300-six. 206K miles. I have $2,400 in it.
Obviously, some are but I wouldn't go so far as to say most. Other than one stepson who has a Ford Raptor (and admits he bought it for the image), I don't know anyone who doesn't use their truck for its intended purpose. Maybe not hauling stuff every time they drive it, but often enough to justify owning one.

Must be nice living where 30+ year old trucks are still on the road...15 years is about tops here in northern New England before rust completely takes over.

I do sometimes question the emphasis on off-roading in marketing...I doubt even 10% of truck owners ever take them on anything more than a Class V road. Even pseudo-SUV ads seem to imply they're off-road vehicles.
To me it's crazy spending $100K-$150K either to haul groceries or tear up working/hauling.
A truck is a truck. To each his/her/their own.
Most people don't spend close to that amount on their trucks.
 
   / Is the Cyber Truck a Flop? #168  
Even pseudo-SUV ads seem to imply they're off-road vehicles.
I used to do a lot of off-roading, mostly in the Pocono mountains, there were some very active clubs back in the 1990's and early 2000's, mostly sponsored by few local stores (e.g. O.K.4WD). Guys would come out with their "offroad edition" new Cherokee's and Wranglers especially, and get them stuck hours-deep into the woods, and more than one brand-new vehicle had to be just abandoned or parted-out back there. The Cherokees were particularly adept at breaking the welds off their front suspension mounts, and I remember a few guys with more serious off-road rigs pulling up next to a new Cherokee to do some emergency welding, just enough of a repair to get them back out to the road where a flatbed could retrieve them.

I doubt any of the soft SUV's being marketed as off-road vehicles have the heavy duty suspensions, differential lockers, dual transfer cases, rim lock tires, snorkels, and other pretty standard features common to nearly any vehicle built for off-road use.

Funny story, there was one young guy (maybe even still in high school) who had his dad's brand-new Wrangler out with us one weekend. The vehicle was absolutely beautiful, and all decked out with massive mud tires, and all the brightly-painted shackles and hi-lift jack accessories that turns on any poser who runs out and buys something like that. But it lacked differential lockers, and so there was one particular very steep hill climb up to a narrow ridge that he just wasn't able to make along with the rest of us. Long story short, he ended up rolling it end-over-end down a very steep hill into a ravine, and while he walked away from it, he just couldn't accept there was no way on earth short of a helicopter to get that vehicle out of that ravine. I think it was only weeks old, and the kid had taken it without permission, while dad was away on vacation. He ended up emptying the glove box and grabbing his overnight bag out of the back, but otherwise left the whole vehicle just laying back there, miles deep into the woods.
 
   / Is the Cyber Truck a Flop? #169  
There are so many stories of Cybertrucks failing with very low miles. The one thing that seems to resonate with many of them is the company being reluctant to repair under warranty. A person shouldn't have to lawyer up because a oil leak happened at 35 miles.
 
   / Is the Cyber Truck a Flop? #170  
The Cybertruck is expensive, terrible as a truck or even a functional vehicle, and hideous to look at. Also its looks say "look at me! I spent a lot of money!" and I'm tired of people like that. OTOH I know a guy in Oregon who drives a lot for work and loves his Ford Lighting E-pickup. He's not hauling huge trailers but he's got various construction site tools he carries.
Is the Cyber Truck a Flop?
As a solution as a functional truck, in most situations yes it a fail. It serves a purpose as a technological test bed.
Does Elon own mills that produce stainless steel sheet?
You could build future Starships from recycled Cybertrucks?
 

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