EV owners of today and tomorrow

[shooterdon]

You live in Michigan so you have been taught all your life that automobiles "need support", and "gas stations".

Generalizations do not apply to every situation. It demonstrates your ignorance and bias.

I don’t need gas stations to use an EV for 90% of my needs as I can charge at home easily. I do want to be able to get whatever I have serviced.

 

[5030]

Different states have different rules and laws concerning motor vehicles. Here in Michigan tinted front windshields that are more than 60% opaque are not legal as are tires that protrude from the body shell as well as anything hanging from the rear view mirror but enforcement is entirely up to the officer. Got stopped on the Ohio Turnpike one time for no front plate but here in Mi, you only get one plate for the rear and once the cop realized I was from Mi, he apologized and let me go.

 

[Grumpycat]

Yes, technically. There are laws for windshield obstruction. Just like there are laws for bumper height...

And headlights.

 

[Grumpycat]

Generalizations do not apply to every situation. It demonstrates your ignorance and bias.

I just restated your words.

I don’t need gas stations to use an EV for 90% of my needs as I can charge at home easily. I do want to be able to get whatever I have serviced.

Tesla has mobile technicians covering most of the country.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/ranked-the-cheapest-car-brands-to-own-and-maintain-in-the-u-s/

While this has been known for some time, it's good to see it in print. Having a CEO that is constantly working on squeezing out needless cost by embracing quality is a good thing in my view. I felt sorry for the CEO of Ford when he stated that they could not compete against Tesla as he would prefer because they could not hire a workforce like Tesla has. Having the best selling car in the world does not happen by accident.

 

[scootr]

I just read Hyundai has begun production of a new EV in America... with American workers.

 

[WinterDeere]

I felt sorry for the CEO of Ford when he stated that they could not compete against Tesla as he would prefer because they could not hire a workforce like Tesla has. Having the best selling car in the world does not happen by accident.

It's difficult to assume Ford isn't suffering from some of the same "legacy costs" that brought down the American steel industry.

Many here lament the decline of American-made steel, and the subsequent loss of all those steel worker's jobs. But those of us who grew up close to Bethlehem Steel, and had friends and family who spent their careers at was once the world's largest steel manufacturer, know exactly why they went out of business. The absolutely sickening level of waste and overcompensation happening within that organization would be difficult to understand for anyone who hasn't seen it firsthand.

Management blamed the absolutely insane level of retirement compensation forced onto them by a very strong union, while the workers blamed the beyond-luxurious level of company-paid ammenities for executives and their families. Honestly, it seems both were nearly-equally to blame for bringing that company down from within.

It's hard to not assume Ford is dealing with some of the same, bearing higher legacy costs than Tesla or any Chinese EV manufacturer will ever have to endure. They had a very comfortable period, with very little competition, to help put them into their current position. But now it's time to pay the piper!

 

[NoTrespassing]

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/ranked-the-cheapest-car-brands-to-own-and-maintain-in-the-u-s/

While this has been known for some time, it's good to see it in print. Having a CEO that is constantly working on squeezing out needless cost by embracing quality is a good thing in my view. I felt sorry for the CEO of Ford when he stated that they could not compete against Tesla as he would prefer because they could not hire a workforce like Tesla has. Having the best selling car in the world does not happen by accident.

How can a Tesla only be $150 cheaper to maintain than a Lincoln over 10 years? Are oil changes the only thing separating the two? Oil changes over 10 years would be more than $150 so what is costing more on the Tesla besides maybe tires?

 

[wawajake]

How can a Tesla only be $150 cheaper to maintain than a Lincoln over 10 years? Are oil changes the only thing separating the two? Oil changes over 10 years would be more than $150 so what is costing more on the Tesla besides maybe tires?

It does cost a lot to fix the keying jobs on the paintwork each year and increasing occurances I am sure .......but then Elon brought that on to his car owners by himself, so maybe he should cover that maintenance

 

[tradosaurus]

How can a Tesla only be $150 cheaper to maintain than a Lincoln over 10 years? Are oil changes the only thing separating the two? Oil changes over 10 years would be more than $150 so what is costing more on the Tesla besides maybe tires?

From the link:

To compile this data, Consumer Reports asked its members to report how much they paid out of pocket for their total maintenance and repairs, excluding costs associated with collision repair.

As a Tesla owner not sure what maintenance and repairs could be alluded to. I would exclude tires and wiper blades since all cars have to replace these.
So for an EV I would have to say maintenance and repairs should be close to $0 (excluding tires and wiper blades) in a 5 year period.