Who rides motorcycles?

[CalG]

Dang!
Yesterday I rode over to order out a replacement front tire for the VFR. Call it a 30 mile loop.
Today I used the pickup to "pick up" the new tire because I also needed to make a run to the recycling. 4 trash cans full plus a bunch of flattened cardboard.
Well, in the time of that one day, the shop took in a two year old CT125 Trail bike. We often remember them as "Trail 90's". That's a bike I have "wanted" for quite some time. Had one a long way back, and enjoyed it.

The dealer threw out a price that is only off of new price by a fraction, but,,,,, we will see ;-)

 

[not2old]

Buy the new one. My first bike was a 6 month old 1966 Yamaha Twin Jet 100 that I bought for $300.00 when a new one would have been $375.00. I will never make that mistake again. After a few repairs, I discovered the difference in price was too little.

 

[CalG]

Buy the new one. My first bike was a 6 month old 1966 Yamaha Twin Jet 100 that I bought for $300.00 when a new one would have been $375.00. I will never make that mistake again. After a few repairs, I discovered the difference in price was too little.

Availability may influence my sense of value. But there is little hope of a sale on a second hand bike for the same cost as new, with dealer full support. (Warranties tend to time out on these low mile cream puffs.)

Besides, It only has a single seat....My wife doesn't like that. (But she likes the step through frame.

I just might need to hold out for the Vespa GTS

 

[Kyle_in_Tex]

Dang!
Yesterday I rode over to order out a replacement front tire for the VFR. Call it a 30 mile loop.
Today I used the pickup to "pick up" the new tire because I also needed to make a run to the recycling. 4 trash cans full plus a bunch of flattened cardboard.
Well, in the time of that one day, the shop took in a two year old CT125 Trail bike. We often remember them as "Trail 90's". That's a bike I have "wanted" for quite some time. Had one a long way back, and enjoyed it.

The dealer threw out a price that is only off of new price by a fraction, but,,,,, we will see ;-)

I agree. Buy the new one. It would have to be an old collectable to fetch same as new price.

 

[CalG]

I agree. Buy the new one. It would have to be an old collectable to fetch same as new price.

The sales gal texted me with the comment that "pricing is based on the average selling price of the same model in our area.

To form an average, that would imply that some area sales EXCEEDED the price of a new bike.
New list is 4,099, this 2022 used creampuff is 3995 "out the door".

"A hundred dollars ain't much distance, I don't think it makes much difference. I don't think I'll buy that bike no more...."
(credits to Roger Miller!)

 

[Kyle_in_Tex]

The sales gal texted me with the comment that "pricing is based on the average selling price of the same model in our area.

To form an average, that would imply that some area sales EXCEEDED the price of a new bike.
New list is 4,099, this 2022 used creampuff is 3995 "out the door".

"A hundred dollars ain't much distance, I don't think it makes much difference. I don't think I'll buy that bike no more...."
(credits to Roger Miller!)

You know they didn't give that much for trade in. If you want it, offer $3ish, then let them text you. There is no warranty etc.

 

[not2old]

The sales gal texted me with the comment that "pricing is based on the average selling price of the same model in our area.

To form an average, that would imply that some area sales EXCEEDED the price of a new bike.
New list is 4,099, this 2022 used creampuff is 3995 "out the door".

"A hundred dollars ain't much distance, I don't think it makes much difference. I don't think I'll buy that bike no more...."
(credits to Roger Miller!)

I bought a new F350 last October. Other than mine is a supercab and the ads are for a crew cab, lots,of dealers are asking more for their used ones than I paid for new.

 

[Rich B1]

I have been s-l-o-w-l-y resurrecting a 1952 BSA M33 from a 60+ year slumber. Had it running last year, but there were a lot of demons that needed cast out. Seems I finally have scared off the last demon, have 101 trouble free miles this spring. Last outing was to the local BMW dealer who once was a BSA dealer.



I am really enjoying the relaxed pace this bike gives. And surprisingly competent on 2 lane roads for a 73 year old motorcycle.

 

[3930dave]

Yes, bikes are not efficient transportation.....

She's a beauty Rich, but you must have to allow extra time for every Stop..... everybody will want to talk to you about it !

I totally get the back-roads/relaxed ride vibe..... I'm getting a hit, just from the pic .

Rgds, D.

 

[Kyle_in_Tex]

Rich B1, I've been wondering what you've been up to. That is a beauty. I am a fan of thumpers, but also a fan of most all bikes.

Wondering how the vibration is on that thing? My friend has ridden the Husky 701 thumper, and he says it hardly has any vibration. IIRC, The engine in that bike is now only sold by GasGas as an On/Off road bike.

Here's a question to all, if the EPA's rules were retracted for motorcycles, and they could build 2 strokes again, would any of y'all crave one? I want an RZ500 with modern technology. Or better yet, make it a 750.

Also wouldn't mind a Bultaco or Ossa super pioneer type bike, with electric start.

 

[deserteagle71]

Here's a question to all, if the EPA's rules were retracted for motorcycles, and they could build 2 strokes again, would any of y'all crave one?

Nope! Had two 2-stroke bikes during my many years as a motorcycle rider and got rid of both quickly. Where I ride means huge differences in elevation. Valleys at ~ 4000 feet elevation but the trails in the mountains surrounding the valleys go up past 11,000 feet. Seems I could never tune either bike to run well in the valley and still run well up in the mountains. When I rode my Yamaha IT-465 I'd take 6 extra spark plugs with me and keep changing them as they fouled at high elevation. But if I tuned it to run good up high then it would run really lean as I got back down to the valley, risking burning a hole in the piston. My 4-strokes would blubber at high elevation and they ran really rich but never did I have to change a spark plug during a ride.

But that was years ago. Maybe today, with electronic fuel injection, the system might compensate for high elevation. I don't know...my newest bike is a 2007 Yamaha 4-stroke and it is carbureted!

 

[not2old]

Also wouldn't mind a Bultaco or Ossa super pioneer type bike, with electric start.

One of my bikes is a 2016 Husky TE300 thyat I managed to put a plate on. Can't get much closer than that.

 

[Rich B1]

@Kyle_in_Tex, the vibration is very mild. Just a tingle in the pegs that is not at all uncomfortable. It has a sweet spot about 55 mph, where it is very smooth.

My Gold Star is also surprisingly smooth. And I have ridden Velocettes that are smooth as well. So IME, not all big singles are shakers.

The spring seat took some time to get used to, but it is growing on me.

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

Got the scooter out today. Needs all fluids flushed, but I'll get to that soon. After riding motocross bikes, this thing now feels gutless

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

Heading to Lawrence County tomorrow with the boy. I'm loving retirement

 

[FullMetalBucket]

Got the scooter out today. Needs all fluids flushed, but I'll get to that soon. After riding motocross bikes, this thing now feels gutless View attachment 3438895

Fz 09 is no joke. 0-60 2.5 seconds,115 hp on a 400lb bike. I had the XSR900 which is the same motor/frame but different styling.. that Yamaha triple is a beast.

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

Fz 09 is no joke. 0-60 2.5 seconds,115 hp on a 400lb bike. I had the XSR900 which is the same motor/frame but different styling.. that Yamaha triple is a beast.

It really is... But the CRF250R is a lot punchier (gearing). I love the Yamaha triple though... This replaced my Triumph Speed Triple

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

Fz 09 is no joke. 0-60 2.5 seconds,115 hp on a 400lb bike. I had the XSR900 which is the same motor/frame but different styling.. that Yamaha triple is a beast.

The FZ also has the ECU flashed. Removed the speed limiter, added a few HP for the Akra exhaust and enabled quick shift. Also adjusted the throttle by wire, because the 2014s were a little "unrefined"... And added a quick turn throttle in Mode A. If I have my way, I'll never sell it.

 

[FullMetalBucket]

I originally wanted the fz09 (now mt09) but I ran the numbers by insurance. Because the fz is listed as a sport bike, the insurance was crazy. The XSR was not listed as a sport bike in insurance terms so it was only like 200 per year. Same CP3 engine, frame etc. made no sense. My XSR900 was a 2016. They’ve got a little better looking now.

 

[not2old]

I originally wanted the fz09 (now mt09) but I ran the numbers by insurance. Because the fz is listed as a sport bike, the insurance was crazy. The XSR was not listed as a sport bike in insurance terms so it was only like 200 per year. Same CP3 engine, frame etc. made no sense. My XSR900 was a 2016. They’ve got a little better looking now.

We really get screwed here in B.C.with government insurance. My 2005 XL1200R has 65HP and costs me around $100.00 per month for just public liability. That's about the same for my 2014 CTS-V. Both are summer only vehicles.