Don’t forget that sunscreen.

[lilranch2001]

I figure, I have lasted on earth a lot longer than I ever expected to, so whatever the “Big Guy” has in store for me, I am ok with it!

 

[Yander]

I might be breaking out the full-brim hat today. I got pretty burned up running the tractor and mower yesterday. My barber told me that she sees a bunch of older guys come in with chunks out of their ears due to skin cancer being removed from their ears. Dude's like us who wear a regular ball cap type hat all their lives.

After that, I bought myself a full-brim hat about a year ago. I've worn it twice. I have a hard time wearing it. I've been in a ball cap since I was a kid.

 

[panamaguy]

I read that sunscreen can cause cancer....

I'm not taking any chances, Gonna die of natural causes, just like the good old days.

If the whiskey don't kill me, I'll live 'till I die.

And you have read correctly. Google the ingredients of sunscreen and you will fine lots that are hazardous to human health. People do not realize that everything they put on their skin goes into the body. Sunscreen, aftershave, deodorant etc. If you want to test that theory get some DMSO and put some on the bottom of your foot. Within minutes you will taste garlic as that is what it tastes like. And on DMSO do a google search on how helpful it is to us. Skin cancer was not a big problem years ago when farmers spent a huge amount of time in the sun but since sunscreen was pushed onto the public it has become a problem. You do not want to burn, but build a base tan and you are good for more time in the sun. And remember your body turns sunlight into Vitamin D3 which most people are lacking

 

[panamaguy]

One of our kids was on medications in her youth that made her very susceptible to sunburn. 20 minutes out in the sun and her ears would be bright red. Didn't help she was on the golf team in high school. Seems like we bought cases of sun screen. She still uses it religiously to this day.

Should have just bought her a big brim hat instead of toxic chemicals

 

[panamaguy]

Then read this: Nine Sunscreen Myths Debunked

Hone in on number three. Actually, not wearing sunscreen causes cancer.

Ya. And the covid jab was safe and effective. Another reason to get more clean sunlight on your body. Reading is important but know the source of the info. Remember the Ford salesman will always tell you there cars are the best just like the Chevy guy

 

[panamaguy]

That's good advise here on TBN and it is worth every cent I paid for it.

But the Dermatologist has the facts and knows more about it, and it is worth paying for.

Ya and your doctor told you the covid clot shot was ok too i bet.

 

[CalG]

I ran across this.

For the very sensitive among us. ;-)

Then there is the children's song.

"Sun Shine, sunshine, lots and lots of good old fashioned sunshine.
Sunshine, sunshine, that's the thing that makes me feel fine!"

Wear a hat!
;-)

 

[drssg]

And you have read correctly. Google the ingredients of sunscreen and you will fine lots that are hazardous to human health. People do not realize that everything they put on their skin goes into the body. Sunscreen, aftershave, deodorant etc. If you want to test that theory get some DMSO and put some on the bottom of your foot. Within minutes you will taste garlic as that is what it tastes like. And on DMSO do a google search on how helpful it is to us. Skin cancer was not a big problem years ago when farmers spent a huge amount of time in the sun but since sunscreen was pushed onto the public it has become a problem. You do not want to burn, but build a base tan and you are good for more time in the sun. And remember your body turns sunlight into Vitamin D3 which most people are lacking

I don't know when sunscreen was invented, but it seems like life expectancy would have a larger impact on skin cancer.

Annual life expectancy in the U.S. 1850-2100| Statista

From the mid-19th century until today, life expectancy at birth in the United States has roughly doubled, from **** years in 1850 to **** years in 2025.

www.statista.com

 

[panamaguy]

No doubt about that the same as prostate cancer, but still no reason not to stop putting chemicals on your body. Like they say if you would not eat it why would you put it on your body and absorb it. Ok so desperate people drink aftershave i have heard from store shelves, not counting them LOL

 

[drssg]

No doubt about that the same as prostate cancer, but still no reason not to stop putting chemicals on your body. Like they say if you would not eat it why would you put it on your body and absorb it. Ok so desperate people drink aftershave i have heard from store shelves, not counting them LOL

I don't want to eat shampoo, but I still wash my hair. Different chemicals have different absorption rates and different toxicities. DMSO is specifically designed to absorb into your skin for medical purposes.

 

[panamaguy]

True but from my readings there are things like safer shampoos and soaps. Must most just buy off the shelves and have no clue about it going into the body. Not getting sunburnt is a big one. But i have been a nudist from age 10 and 71 now and sunscreen has never touched my body. And i wouldbet i get more sun than most here in Panama

 

[Tinhack]

I don't know when sunscreen was invented, but it seems like life expectancy would have a larger impact on skin cancer.
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Annual life expectancy in the U.S. 1850-2100| Statista

From the mid-19th century until today, life expectancy at birth in the United States has roughly doubled, from **** years in 1850 to **** years in 2025.

www.statista.com

I hope the chart keeps moving ahead of me. I might make it to 90 yet.
If that chart is by year of birth, I already beat that.

 

[RB5]

Hats and long sleeves!

Arab robes are the real answer.
They ain't no dummies over there when it comes to sunshine.

I'm not wearing a robe to work in the garden or round up cows... just sayin. SPF50 sport spray on has become my friend. I remember when anything over SPF3 was rare. I started using SPF30 on my fair skin when I worked at a cosmetics company in the 90s. Maybe it saved my skin to some extent? Was good stuff, and I got it at 15% of retail. I stocked up when I left. I've had a few things frozen and one melanoma removed. Nothing in the last 10+ years since I switched to SPF50. I used to fish all the time, 50 to 100 plus days a year. It adds up.

 

[ning]

Hats and long sleeves!

Arab robes are the real answer.
They ain't no dummies over there when it comes to sunshine.

I often wear a cloth keffiyeh/shemagh style with a bit of a roll which provides an eye-shading brim. Covers the back of the neck and soaks up a lot of sweat and is surprisingly cool, and easily converts to provide a breathing mask though I don't wear it like that much.
I don't have a jillaba any more - I think that got tossed when we came back to USA from our time in Morocco. Wouldn't fit me anyways... I was 6 then. I stick with carhartt dungarees and cotton shirts for sun work for the most part.

 

[CalG]

I'm not wearing a robe to work in the garden or round up cows... just sayin. SPF50 sport spray on has become my friend. I remember when anything over SPF3 was rare. I started using SPF30 on my fair skin when I worked at a cosmetics company in the 90s. Maybe it saved my skin to some extent? Was good stuff, and I got it at 15% of retail. I stocked up when I left. I've had a few things frozen and one melanoma removed. Nothing in the last 10+ years since I switched to SPF50. I used to fish all the time, 50 to 100 plus days a year. It adds up.

Fishing can be a hazard to your health!

There is something in the water!

;-)

 

[Williy]

Whit all the hoey about sunscreen I thenk they spend too much
time in the fruit section.

For 2 years stationed in Corpus Christi, TX I layed on the roof of
our cold storage plant from 12 to 1 pm I never got cancer but I
did get very dark

willy

 

[future_vision]

First off, the push to stop using sunscreen often comes from folks worried about chemicals like oxybenzone and octocrylene, which are in a lot of mainstream sunscreens. These ingredients have been flagged for potentially messing with the environment—like harming coral reefs and aquatic life. Oxybenzone, for instance, has been shown to be pretty toxic to marine ecosystems, which is why some places like Hawaii have banned sunscreens containing it. There’s also chatter about these chemicals absorbing into your skin and maybe causing issues, like hormone disruption or allergic reactions. Octocrylene, for example, can absorb at levels way above what the FDA considers “safe” for systemic exposure, and it’s been linked to contact dermatitis in some cases. Plus, it often breaks down into benzophenone, a known carcinogen. Yikes, right?

On the flip side, the idea that sunscreen is flat-out dangerous for humans is overblown. Studies claiming harm—like those with oxybenzone—are often based on rats chowing down on the stuff, not humans slapping it on their skin. You’d need to use sunscreen for something like 277 years to get the same dose those rats did. So, the “it’ll kill you” crowd is probably stretching the truth. And let’s not forget: sunscreen does protect against UV rays, which can lead to skin cancer—melanoma isn’t a joke.

Now, there’s also the vitamin D argument. Some folks say sunscreen blocks your body from making vitamin D since you need UVB rays for that. Fair point—vitamin D deficiency is real and can mess with your health. But you don’t need to bake yourself to get it. You can get vitamin D from foods like fatty fish or even supplements, and some experts say just 10-15 minutes of sun exposure a day (before you slather on protection) is enough.

If you’re thinking of ditching sunscreen, you might be into the natural alternatives crowd—like using coconut oil or olive oil, which have some UV-blocking properties. Coconut oil can block about 20% of UV rays and has a decent SPF, sometimes up to 40 in pure forms. Olive oil clocks in at around SPF 7-8. But let’s be real: these aren’t as effective as a good mineral sunscreen with zinc oxide, and they won’t cut it if you’re spending hours in the sun.

Here’s my take: you don’t need to stop using sunscreen entirely, but you might want to be pickier. Go for mineral-based ones with zinc or titanium—they’re less likely to have sketchy chemicals and are better for the planet. The Environmental Working Group rates these higher than chemical sunscreens for a reason. If you’re worried about vitamin D, get a little sun before you apply, or pop a supplement. And if you’re swimming in a reef, maybe skip the oxybenzone stuff to keep the fish happy.

So, no need to go full vampire, but you’ve got options.

One thing that is often overlooked is that the Vitamin D you get from food or supplements is not the same as the Vitamin D you produce with sun exposure. Same argument for Omega 3 from supplements. Not the same as the Omega - 3 you get from eating seafood.

 

[future_vision]

I just don't get the over complication of this subject. Our bodies, typically, have the ability to adapt to UV. You can't do it all at once and if you are in a situation where you are going to have prolonged sun exposure, before 'training' for it then maybe mineral based sunscreen would be wise. What I mean by training is building up your sun callous. Small, increasing exposure over time and you can be out in the sun longer without sunscreen. The human body is amazing this way. The problem is that we take this amazing machine and put it in a cage(indoors in front of screens) for a large majority of the day. Then we wonder why we get all these diseases that didn't exist anywhere near the levels they do today.

Here's an interesting question to ask that proves this. Why do so many people get skin cancer when they spend most of their time inside? Is it going out in the sun once in a awhile that is causing it or is it the environment they are exposed to most often? The sun is not our enemy. We only exist because of it.

 

[lilranch2001]

We are all gonna die sooner or later, and the best thing we can do is live a life that honors the father…..
And that is coming from a highly flawed sinner!

 

[RayIN]

Sunscreen sold in the U.S.A. is inferior to sunscreen sold in the EU. A group of dermatologists have been trying for decades to allow the sale of sunscreen available in the EU here, but big pharma has won out so far.
My dermatologist has been pressuring me for decades to apply sunscreen (higher than SPF30 is a waste of money) as directed, a thick coating_not rubbed into the skin, applied every hour or so(I forget the actual time span)

Tuesday last she froze off 6 places on my head and 1 on my side(pre-cancer); MOES surgery on my right temple area 2 months ago. I have an every 6 months complete body inspection ever since they found malignant melanoma on my right fore-arm. I was sent to a plastic surgeon who cut out a grapefruit section size hunk of my fore-arm muscle and the glands in my arm-pits.
Black people get sunburned too, so there is no conditioning the body to UV rays, which BTW have been increasing in strength every year for a long time.